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Excuse me for not retracing 31 pages of commentary, but are issues with the ASW pieces of the platform, or with its actual flight systems? Do we have a good helicopter with teething problems in its ASW role?
h3tacco said:Your sympathies are appreciated but a lot of the issues are similar to the Block III Aurora. Fully capable is often tossed around when it should read fully contract compliant. There will be a lot of growing pains but there will be a lot of capability sooner.
h3tacco said:Your sympathies are appreciated but a lot of the issues are similar to the Block III Aurora. Fully capable is often tossed around when it should read fully contract compliant. There will be a lot of growing pains but there will be a lot of capability sooner.
A step forward from the Sea King at least?Jammer said:The airframe is great....mission package...not so much
Infanteer said:Excuse me for not retracing 31 pages of commentary, but are issues with the ASW pieces of the platform, or with its actual flight systems? Do we have a good helicopter with teething problems in its ASW role?
Jammer said:The airframe is great....mission package...not so much
MCG said:A step forward from the Sea King at least?
TB said:They're going to find out they need 2 AESOPs onboard or share sensors with the TACCO.
My 2 cents.
Dolphin_Hunter said:I am curious to see how the sensor operators will be employed on this aircraft. From everything I have read, it is a huge technological leap forward, especially with the addition of passive acoustics.
I've heard the saying "we will do everything you do on the Aurora, but we will do it with one operator", too much recently. One can't be balls deep into passive acoustic tracking, then step out to update the radar plot, or analyze an ESM hit. It's going to be an exciting time for the MH community when these choppers finally come online.
TB said:Very good point h3tacco, one thing to consider also will be the impact of the MESIP on the AESOP trade. That will mean you will have Cpl level AESOPs on crews with less experience. We will see some of the effects on the LRP side were most Sgt won't be flying anymore. The ones who will fly won't touch the sensors but be primarily an information manager for the TACNAV. I hope the MH community sees our mistakes and learn from them.
PuckChaser said:As long as the Cyclones don't randomly choose their own landing spots, it's gotta be a one up on the Seakings.
Dolphin_Hunter said:I am curious to see how the sensor operators will be employed on this aircraft. From everything I have read, it is a huge technological leap forward, especially with the addition of passive acoustics.
I've heard the saying "we will do everything you do on the Aurora, but we will do it with one operator", too much recently. One can't be balls deep into passive acoustic tracking, then step out to update the radar plot, or analyze an ESM hit. It's going to be an exciting time for the MH community when these choppers finally come online.
TB said:They're going to find out they need 2 AESOPs onboard or share sensors with the TACCO.
My 2 cents.
TB said:Very good point h3tacco, one thing to consider also will be the impact of the MESIP on the AESOP trade. That will mean you will have Cpl level AESOPs on crews with less experience. We will see some of the effects on the LRP side were most Sgt won't be flying anymore.
The ones who will fly won't touch the sensors but be primarily an information manager for the TACNAV.
I hope the MH community sees our mistakes and learn from them.
Kirkhill said:Curiosity - and possible tangent: How do you develop experienced Sgts in a trade like AESOP if you don't have inexperienced Cpls flying and getting OJT time?
No agenda on this one. Just curious.
MCG said:Develop guys on a bigger aircraft, and employ the developed guys alone on smaller aircraft (ie. Cpl & Sgt on Aurora, MCpl on Cyclone)?