Chance of Deployment [Merged]

[expeditionary]

Don't bank on going anywhere, especially in your first 5 years. You'll be sticking around in Canada for majority of it.

Never would have thought this.
Is this because of the amount of training to be effective as an infanteer in a section requires five years of training?

Tours overseas? Its like predicting the weather.

Ya. General idea of what people said in the links Mario provided. Their was one great post on the unpredictability of how postings to tours work; not only was it informational, but a fun read. If I run by it again, I'll quote it in this thread.

Operations Update

"The Canadian Armed Forces operations monthly public affairs narrative is designed to give an up-to-date overview of ongoing Canadian Armed Forces missions in Canada, North America and around the world."

http://www.forces.gc.ca/en/operations/update.page

Thanks for the groovy search and post Mike, the links were an interesting read.



What was taken by this.

• (Assumed) it's an automatic promotion to Cpl from Pte after the first three years, then privates don't go on tours, for, the first five years, you ain't going anywhere. Q: Were their not privates in the Stan?
• Unless for some urgent offensive/defensive, the first VIE of three years, you're home in Canada.
• It's a crap shot to whether you'll be going, even if you're told you're going. Stay positive.

 

[PuckChaser]

Some Ptes went overseas, but that's all about getting posted to the right unit, at the right time right out of DP1. We don't have large scale infantry deployments right now, so that narrows your chances even more.

 

[expeditionary]

Some Ptes went overseas, but that's all about getting posted to the right unit, at the right time right out of DP1. We don't have large scale infantry deployments right now, so that narrows your chances even more.

Cool. I read somewhere that the battalions had rotation, I believe the first being PPCLI 1st Bn. Could you bring light on how the rotation would be chosen in our next large scale infantry deployment? PM me if it's an OPS-SEC thing, for that's the battalion/regiment I'd choose.

Regarding the Ptes that were deployed, did you notice a majority coming from any particular regiment?

 

[PuckChaser]

We rotate units on a Managed Readiness Plan. That plan is not open source, so I'm not going to put it out here. You can find news articles referencing who is on high readiness.

You seem to think that you get a choice here. You get a preference. The Army is going to pick where you're going, and if those 2 match up, you're lucky. If they don't, you get to deal with it, and wait your turn for high readiness.

 

[expeditionary]

We rotate units on a Managed Readiness Plan. That plan is not open source, so I'm not going to put it out here. You can find news articles referencing who is on high readiness.

Nice, no worries. Thank you for replying anyway, appreciate the answer. Never knew about Managed Readiness Plan, and with that info, I came across this, http://news.gc.ca/web/article-en.do?nid=1031689...and this http://news.gc.ca/web/article-en.do?nid=1046029&tp=1. Cool.

You seem to think that you get a choice here. You get a preference. The Army is going to pick where you're going, and if those 2 match up, you're lucky. If they don't, you get to deal with it, and wait your turn for high readiness.

Right on. Yes, I was under the impression that regiment could be chosen, battalion not. If I read correctly, are regiment/battalion preference options, or is just the regiment a preference?

 

[PuckChaser]

I'm not Infantry, but from reading here I think you pick a Regiment preference, and you'll be posted to the needs of the Regiment. Read through the subforum here, I'm positive that's been answered.

 

[expeditionary]

I'm not Infantry, but from reading here I think you pick a Regiment preference, and you'll be posted to the needs of the Regiment. Read through the subforum here, I'm positive that's been answered.

Ack. Thanks man.

 

[RedcapCrusader]

Never would have thought this.
Is this because of the amount of training to be effective as an infanteer in a section requires five years of training?
Ya. General idea of what people said in the links Mario provided. Their was one great post on the unpredictability of how postings to tours work; not only was it informational, but a fun read. If I run by it again, I'll quote it in this thread.

Thanks for the groovy search and post Mike, the links were an interesting read.



What was taken by this.

• (Assumed) it's an automatic promotion to Cpl from Pte after the first three years, then privates don't go on tours, for, the first five years, you ain't going anywhere. Q: Were their not privates in the Stan?
• Unless for some urgent offensive/defensive, the first VIE of three years, you're home in Canada.
• It's a crap shot to whether you'll be going, even if you're told you're going. Stay positive.

3 years to Corporal if eligible for Advanced Promotion, otherwise 4 years.

Yes, Privates deployed. However there was also a war going on.

...what I meant was, with the current political and budgetary situation, don't count on going anywhere any time soon doing anything more than guarding a gate, and very likely not overseas.

Cool. I read somewhere that the battalions had rotation, I believe the first being PPCLI 1st Bn. Could you bring light on how the rotation would be chosen in our next large scale infantry deployment? PM me if it's an OPS-SEC thing, for that's the battalion/regiment I'd choose.

Regarding the Ptes that were deployed, did you notice a majority coming from any particular regiment?

No, every unit rotates battalions through a Battle Group. It all depends on timing, and to be honest, luck.

 

[mariomike]

Thanks for the groovy search and post Mike, the links were an interesting read.

You are welcome. Good luck. 

 

[expeditionary]

3 years to Corporal if eligible for Advanced Promotion, otherwise 4 years.
Yes, Privates deployed. However there was also a war going on.
...what I meant was, with the current political and budgetary situation, don't count on going anywhere any time soon doing anything more than guarding a gate, and very likely not overseas.
No, every unit rotates battalions through a Battle Group. It all depends on timing, and to be honest, luck.

Good knowledge and insight, thank you.

You are welcome. Good luck. 

Thanks man!

 

[Fishbone Jones]

Besides, according to your profile, you're not even in yet. There's plenty of years and training and.... and.... before you even get considered for deployment.

You've got a lot more important obstacles to worry about and once you're sworn in, they will come fast enough that you won't be thinking of deployment.

Concentrate on the task at hand. The deployments, if there are any by then, will take care of themselves.

 

[BSmith]

Hi Everyone,

I been doing a lot of research over the past few months as I wanted to do a career move in Peacekeeping/Humanitarian aid so I though the Army would give me a chance a doing that (as I didn't want to return to school for a PoliSc degree for some of the UN jobs (for example)). What are the chances for both Reg and Res of doing this? I currently work behind a computer all day and do not wish to do this anymore, I want to get out and help people (but not locally).

Specifically I was looking into being a Armour Solider (with Infantry and Medical Tech as my next options).

Thanks!

 

[mariomike]

You may find these discussions of interest,

The Canadian Peacekeeping Myth (Merged Topics)
http://army.ca/forums/threads/29913.0
12 pages.

Military Ill-prepared for Peacekeeping - G&M
http://army.ca/forums/threads/121925.0
2 pages.

Edit to add

Regarding chances of deployment,

TOURS AS NCM INF PRIVATE 
http://milnet.ca/forums/threads/122685/post-1429138.html#msg1429138

Can someone throw me a friggin deployment????!!! 
http://army.ca/forums/threads/103498.0

Chances of Deployment ?
https://army.ca/forums/threads/105273.0

Deployment probabilities 
http://army.ca/forums/threads/104102.0
2 pages

Curious about deployment rates if anyone can help?
https://army.ca/forums/threads/121073.0

Voluntary Deployment??? 
http://army.ca/forums/threads/98932.0

Wanna join, but what if I don't wanna deploy? (merged)
http://army.ca/forums/threads/89177.0/nowap.html
4 pages

Reserves and Deployment 
http://army.ca/forums/threads/102409.0
2 pages.

Deployment Tempo 
http://army.ca/forums/threads/39949.0/nowap.html
2 pages.

Deployment length?
http://army.ca/forums/threads/110691.0

Deployment duration
http://army.ca/forums/threads/36345.0
2 pages.

Timeframe before deployment for infantry res
http://army.ca/forums/threads/110399.0/nowap.html

BMQ to Deployment Timeline 
http://army.ca/forums/threads/87928.0

Deployment
https://army.ca/forums/threads/104765.0

etc...

See also,

Operations update
"The Canadian Armed Forces operations monthly public affairs narrative is designed to give an up-to-date overview of ongoing Canadian Armed Forces missions in Canada, North America and around the world."
http://www.forces.gc.ca/en/operations/update.page

 

[dimsum]

I would highly suggest you take a look at what those trades do before considering joining purely for humanitarian/Peacekeeping missions.  The CAF may (if the government decides) be sent on those types of missions, but joining as an Armoured Crewman and expecting only UN missions is a bit of an unrealistic stretch.

 

[PuckChaser]

Be a civilian if you want humanitarian or Peacekeeping only. You must be ready and capable as a war fighter if you join the CAF, especially as a combat arms soldier.

 

[QM]

I don't have a crystal ball to tell the future, so can't really say what future tours may look like.  In my experience, Armour is one of the trades that would give you a lower chance of deploying on a peacekeeping or humanitarian aid mission. For the old peacekeeping tours, normally it was an infantry unit that formed the backbone of the battle groups; the infantry is normally the first Arm chosen to do so. On sustained missions where they start to run out of fresh battalions, an armoured regiment may form the basis of the BG. Or, a squadron of armour, and perhaps another squadron of armoured recce, could go out the door with the infantry battalion. But you're choosing one of the less likely Trades for future peacekeeping tours, in terms of pure opportunity. Yes the armour will deploy, and hundreds of tankers (thousands?) are walking around with Afghanistan and Balkan tours (some, multiple tours), but not normally in the same quantity as infantry or a Support/Service Support Trade.

If you really want an opportunity for tour after tour, take a trade. Medic is good for tours, yes. Signals is probably better, and there lots of tours for Supply Tech, MP, Combat Engineer (specialize in water or vertical construction if you want to be a really sought-after commodity on HA missions), some others.

In the end, however, it's a crap shoot. Your battalion may or may not get the call, and if a mission is only one or two rotations and you are in the wrong brigade at that time, oh well.

Also note that you don't get to decide whether you're a peacekeeper or a warfighter. You do what Canada needs you to do.

Anyone else have ideas on which Trades deploy the most?

 

[BSmith]

Thanks for the reply everyone! You pretty much summed up what I though (I don't really think I have fully want it takes to be full Infantry (back problems)) but I wanted to ask to get a more up to date response as a lot of stuff I was reading (on here and via google) was a little old or 'up in the air' due to the Liberal budget.

The reason I posted here was because like I said I want to do Peacekeeping/Humanitarian aid and thought that if I could do that while serving my Country that was even better then doing it as a Civi.

And again, thank you all for your reply's!

EDIT:

I know this is a Army forum but would anyone have any suggestions on NGO's?

 

[CombatDoc]

For NGOs, the Canadian Red Cross is the first one that comes to mind. They take volunteers, for example. Consider returning to school and upgrading your education if you are interested in federal govt departments like Global Affairs Canada, etc.

 

[Superman]

I'm thinking about joining the Military as an Officer and going into Infantry this spring. And I was wondering what the possibility of me being deployed within the first year or so I am in active duty.

Thanks in advance for any insight.

 

[mariomike]

I was wondering what the possibility of me being deployed within the first year or so I am in active duty.

Can someone throw me a friggin deployment????!!! 
http://army.ca/forums/threads/103498.0

Chances of Deployment ?
https://army.ca/forums/threads/105273.0

Deployment probabilities 
http://army.ca/forums/threads/104102.0
2 pages

Curious about deployment rates if anyone can help?
https://army.ca/forums/threads/121073.0

Voluntary Deployment??? 
http://army.ca/forums/threads/98932.0

Wanna join, but what if I don't wanna deploy? (merged)
http://army.ca/forums/threads/89177.0/nowap.html
4 pages

Reserves and Deployment 
http://army.ca/forums/threads/102409.0
2 pages.

Deployment Tempo 
http://army.ca/forums/threads/39949.0/nowap.html
2 pages.

TOURS AS NCM INF PRIVATE
http://army.ca/forums/threads/122685.0

Deployment length?
http://army.ca/forums/threads/110691.0

Deployment duration
http://army.ca/forums/threads/36345.0
2 pages.

Timeframe before deployment for infantry res
http://army.ca/forums/threads/110399.0/nowap.html

BMQ to Deployment Timeline 
http://army.ca/forums/threads/87928.0

Deployment
https://army.ca/forums/threads/104765.0

etc...

See also,

Operations update
"The Canadian Armed Forces operations monthly public affairs narrative is designed to give an up-to-date overview of ongoing Canadian Armed Forces missions in Canada, North America and around the world."
http://www.forces.gc.ca/en/operations/update.page

Date modified: 2016-12-02

I'm thinking about joining the Military

Saw this in another "chances of deployment" type discussion. It sounds like good advice, so I am including it here,

Besides, according to your profile, you're not even in yet. There's plenty of years and training and.... and.... before you even get considered for deployment.

You've got a lot more important obstacles to worry about and once you're sworn in, they will come fast enough that you won't be thinking of deployment.

Concentrate on the task at hand. The deployments, if there are any by then, will take care of themselves.