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How President Ma will act next in this situation should be the next question.
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And the protests and unrest continue.
http://news.yahoo.com/s/ap/20090707/ap_on_re_as/as_china_protest
http://news.yahoo.com/s/ap/20090707/ap_on_re_as/as_china_protest
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A woman on a crutch argues with a Chinese soldier in front of an armoured personnel carrier and soldiers wearing riot gear as a crowd of angry locals confront security forces on a street in the city of Urumqi in China's Xinjiang Autonomous Region July 7, 2009. Hundreds of Uighur protesters clashed with riot police in the capital of China's Muslim region of Xinjiang on Tuesday, two days after ethnic unrest left 156 dead and more than 800 injured. REUTERS/David Gray (CHINA CONFLICT MILITARY POLITICS RELIGION)
Chinese riot police get into position as Uighur protesters gather during a demonstration in Urumqi, Xinjiang Uighur Autonomous Region July 7, 2009. Uighur protesters clashed with Chinese riot police in the capital of China's Muslim region of Xinjiang on Tuesday, two days after ethnic violence broke out leaving 156 people dead and more than 800 injured. REUTERS/Nir Elias (CHINA CONFLICT)
Armed Chinese policemen march towards a group of local women during a confrontation along a street in the city of Urumqi, in China's Xinjiang Autonomous Region July 7, 2009. Hundreds of Uighurs protesting against the arrest of relatives clashed with police in the capital of China's Muslim region of Xinjiang on Tuesday two days after ethnic unrest left 156 dead and 1,080 wounded.
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A local woman on a crutch shouts at Chinese armoured personal carriers and soldiers wearing riot gear as a crowd of angry locals confront security forces on a street in the city of Urumqi in China's Xinjiang Autonomous Region July 7, 2009. China said a riot that shook the capital of the western Xinjiang region on Sunday killed 140 people and the government called the ethnic unrest a plot against its power, signalling a security crackdown. REUTERS/David Gray (CHINA CONFLICT MILITARY POLITICS)
A Chinese police officer holds his gun near a demonstration by Uighur residents in Urumqi, Xinjiang Uighur Autonomous Region July 7, 2009. Uighur protesters clashed with Chinese riot police in the capital of China's Muslim region of Xinjiang on Tuesday, two days after ethnic violence broke out leaving 156 people dead and more than 800 injured. REUTERS/ Nir Elias (CHINA CONFLICT POLITICS)
REUTERS/David Gray (CHINA CONFLICT MILITARY POLITICS RELIGION)
Chinese soldiers wearing riot gear run towards a crowd of angry locals during a confrontation on a street in the city of Urumqi in China's Xinjiang Autonomous Region July 7, 2009. Hundreds of Uighur protesters clashed with riot police in the capital of China's Muslim region of Xinjiang on Tuesday, two days after ethnic unrest left 156 dead and more than 800 injured. REUTERS/David Gray (CHINA CONFLICT MILITARY POLITICS RELIGION)
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Apparently the riots and unrest in Xinjiang seem serious enough to force PRC Pres. Hu to go home early.
http://ca.news.yahoo.com/s/reuters/090708/world/international_us_china_xinjiang
http://ca.news.yahoo.com/s/reuters/090708/world/international_us_china_xinjiang
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Based on the sample of those I have met, I would suggest that most Chinese people are irreligious; based on my reading of history I would suggest that trend – away from formal, organized religion – is long standing but got a big boost when Sun Yat-sen et al* overthrew the, weak, corrupt Qing dynasty in 1911. Sun was, mainly, a Christian but one who, like many Chinese Christians, still observed old folk customs.
Broadly, I think, the Chinese, like most irreligious people, are tolerant. Tolerance, I remind readers, does not mean that one supports those beliefs or actions which (s)he tolerates; rather it means that one does not support the suppression of beliefs or actions one finds, at least, distasteful. But there are always limits to tolerance and I suspect the Uyghurs in Xinjiang may have pressed too hard.
In my opinion most Chinese are conservatives – not the idiotic Rush Limbaughesque American bastardizers of that good term, but real, rock ribbed conservatives with, real, rock solid, family and social values grounded in Confucianism, not Kristol and Buckley. In my mind, real liberals are believers in protecting the rights of the sovereign individual against the depredations of all collectives: church, state, neighbours and so on, while real conservatives value social harmony.
Many people think Islam is a conservative belief system but that is not true because Islam, like Christianity, posits that it can, indeed should or even must impose social harmony by requiring that all either adopt Islam or, at least, voluntarily suppress their own, non-Islamic beliefs systems. That position is, as it must be, morally unacceptable to both real liberals and real conservatives.
Unacceptable beliefs and actions, for some (many? most?) Chinese, include: subordination of women;† vandalism against Buddhist, Confucian and Daoist shrines and temples;** and religious schools. (Although many Asian Muslims eschew the Arab/Persian cultural values that seek to make e.g. subordination of women into a central tenet of Islam‡ there is intense pressure from the Islamic centre to make Islam into an essentially Arab-Persian belief system to be embraced by all.)
Both the Uyghurs and the Tibetans are separatists but there is a huge difference in how China deals with the two Autonomous Regions. China appears intent on winning over Tibetans by buying their loyalty with public works projects and job, Jobs, JOBS! (Shades of Mulroney/Chrétien!) In Xinjiang, on the other hand, there can be no doubt that the Chinese aim is, quite simply, to overwhelm the Muslim Uyghurs by pouring millions and millions of Han Chinese into the region until the Uyghurs are a relatively insignificant minority. I’m guessing that there is a long term plan to encourage Uyghurs to migrate to Central and Western China, further diluting their socio-political power.
Thus, I have, partially, changed m mind. I have said, again and again, that Islam is not the enemy. I need to change that. Islam is not our (the US led West’s) enemy but it is China’s enemy and, for more complex reasons, India’s, too. Not because it is a ‘foreign’ religion, but because it will not (cannot?) adapt itself to China’s conservative values. In a conservative society, where social harmony is the primary ”good,” those who threaten harmony are “bad” and worthy of being an enemy.
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* Sun was not even in China at the time of the Wuchang Uprising; he returned from exile in the USA and was elected as China’s first president by a hastily convened national congress.
† China is, probably, one of the most ‘equal’ societies on earth; it (equality of output) was imposed by Mao but embraced by Chinese – women, especially.
** Which has happened, in China, in the 21st century. These are, probably, classic insurgent tactics aimed at provoking a disproportionate response from the established authorities.
‡ Paternalism is a tenet of Islam – as it is of Christianity and Judaism – but such things as burkas and hijabs are not required to achieve the Muslim ideal of female modesty; they are Arab-Persian cultural artifacts.
Broadly, I think, the Chinese, like most irreligious people, are tolerant. Tolerance, I remind readers, does not mean that one supports those beliefs or actions which (s)he tolerates; rather it means that one does not support the suppression of beliefs or actions one finds, at least, distasteful. But there are always limits to tolerance and I suspect the Uyghurs in Xinjiang may have pressed too hard.
In my opinion most Chinese are conservatives – not the idiotic Rush Limbaughesque American bastardizers of that good term, but real, rock ribbed conservatives with, real, rock solid, family and social values grounded in Confucianism, not Kristol and Buckley. In my mind, real liberals are believers in protecting the rights of the sovereign individual against the depredations of all collectives: church, state, neighbours and so on, while real conservatives value social harmony.
Many people think Islam is a conservative belief system but that is not true because Islam, like Christianity, posits that it can, indeed should or even must impose social harmony by requiring that all either adopt Islam or, at least, voluntarily suppress their own, non-Islamic beliefs systems. That position is, as it must be, morally unacceptable to both real liberals and real conservatives.
Unacceptable beliefs and actions, for some (many? most?) Chinese, include: subordination of women;† vandalism against Buddhist, Confucian and Daoist shrines and temples;** and religious schools. (Although many Asian Muslims eschew the Arab/Persian cultural values that seek to make e.g. subordination of women into a central tenet of Islam‡ there is intense pressure from the Islamic centre to make Islam into an essentially Arab-Persian belief system to be embraced by all.)
Both the Uyghurs and the Tibetans are separatists but there is a huge difference in how China deals with the two Autonomous Regions. China appears intent on winning over Tibetans by buying their loyalty with public works projects and job, Jobs, JOBS! (Shades of Mulroney/Chrétien!) In Xinjiang, on the other hand, there can be no doubt that the Chinese aim is, quite simply, to overwhelm the Muslim Uyghurs by pouring millions and millions of Han Chinese into the region until the Uyghurs are a relatively insignificant minority. I’m guessing that there is a long term plan to encourage Uyghurs to migrate to Central and Western China, further diluting their socio-political power.
Thus, I have, partially, changed m mind. I have said, again and again, that Islam is not the enemy. I need to change that. Islam is not our (the US led West’s) enemy but it is China’s enemy and, for more complex reasons, India’s, too. Not because it is a ‘foreign’ religion, but because it will not (cannot?) adapt itself to China’s conservative values. In a conservative society, where social harmony is the primary ”good,” those who threaten harmony are “bad” and worthy of being an enemy.
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* Sun was not even in China at the time of the Wuchang Uprising; he returned from exile in the USA and was elected as China’s first president by a hastily convened national congress.
† China is, probably, one of the most ‘equal’ societies on earth; it (equality of output) was imposed by Mao but embraced by Chinese – women, especially.
** Which has happened, in China, in the 21st century. These are, probably, classic insurgent tactics aimed at provoking a disproportionate response from the established authorities.
‡ Paternalism is a tenet of Islam – as it is of Christianity and Judaism – but such things as burkas and hijabs are not required to achieve the Muslim ideal of female modesty; they are Arab-Persian cultural artifacts.
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The Army is being sent in to help stop the rioting.The center surely wants to prevent a widespread rebellion and will do whatever is necessary to restore order.
http://www.foxnews.com/story/0,2933,530561,00.html?test=latestnews
China's president cut short a G8 summit trip to hurry home Wednesday after ethnic tensions soared in Xinjiang territory, with sobbing Muslim women scuffling with riot police and Chinese men with steel pipes and meat cleavers rampaging through the streets.
The new violence in Xinjiang's capital erupted Tuesday only a few hours after the city's top officials told reporters the streets in Urumqi were returning to normal following a riot that killed 156 people Sunday. The officials said more than 1,000 suspects had been rounded up since the spasm of attacks by Muslim Uighurs against Han Chinese, the ethnic majority.
In a rare move, President Hu Jintao cut short a trip to Italy to take part in a Group of Eight meeting later Wednesday to travel home to deal with the violence, the Foreign Ministry said on its Web site.
In Tuesday's chaos, hundreds of young Han men seeking revenge began gathering on sidewalks with kitchen knives, clubs, shovels and wooden poles. They spent most of the afternoon marching through the streets, smashing windows of Muslim restaurants and trying to push past police cordons protecting minority neighborhoods. Riot police successfully fought them back with volleys of tear gas and a massive show of force.
Urumqi had a heavy security presence Wednesday morning after an overnight curfew in the city of 2.3 million was lifted. Two helicopters flew over the city watching the scene.
Uighurs have said this week's rioting was triggered by the June 25 deaths of Uighur factory workers killed in a brawl in the southern Chinese city of Shaoguan. State-run media have said two workers died, but many Uighurs believe more were killed and said the incident was an example of how little the government cared about them.
The ugly scenes over the last several days highlight how far away the Communist Party is from one of its top goals: Creating a "harmonious society." The unrest was also an embarrassment for the Chinese leadership, which is getting ready to celebrate the 60th anniversary of Communist rule and wants to show it has created a stable country.
But harmony has been hard to achieve in Xinjiang, a rugged region three times the size of Texas with deserts, mountains and the promise of huge oil and natural gas reserves. Xinjiang is also the homeland for 9 million Uighurs (pronounced WEE-gers), a Turkic-speaking group.
Many Uighurs believe the Han Chinese, who have flooded into the region in recent years, are trying to crowd them out. They often accuse the Han of prejudice and waging campaigns to restrict their religion and culture.
The Han Chinese allege the Uighurs are backward and ungrateful for all the economic development and modernization the Han have brought to Xinjiang. They also complain that the Uighurs' religion — a moderate form of Sunni Islam — keeps them from blending into Chinese society, which is officially communist and largely secular.
U.N. High Commissioner for Human Rights Navi Pillay called the violence a "major tragedy" and said all sides should "exercise great restraint so as not to spark further violence and loss of life."
The authorities have been trying to control the unrest by blocking the Internet, including social networking sites such as Facebook, and limiting access to texting services on cell phones. At the same time, police have generally been allowing foreign media to cover the tensions.
In a sign the government was trying to address communal grievances after the factory brawl in southern China, the official Xinhua News Agency said Tuesday that 13 people had been arrested, including three from Xinjiang. Two others were arrested for spreading rumors on the Internet that Xinjiang employees had raped two female workers, the report said, citing a local police official.
Chinese officials dismiss claims that the Urumqi rioting was caused by long-simmering resentments among the Uighurs. They said the crowds were stirred up by U.S.-exiled Uighur activist Rebiya Kadeer and her overseas followers, who used the Internet to spread rumors.
"Using violence, making rumors, and distorting facts are what cowards do because they are afraid to see social stability and ethnic solidarity in Xinjiang," Foreign Ministry spokesman Qin Gang said in Beijing during a blistering verbal attack on Kadeer. She has denied the allegations.
In Washington, D.C., Kadeer accused China of inciting the ethnic violence, saying peaceful Uighur demonstrators have been targeted as part of the continuing repression in the region by the Chinese government.
"I'm not responsible," Kadeer, president of the Uyghur American Association said, during a rally. "The Chinese authorities instigated the violence."
http://www.foxnews.com/story/0,2933,530561,00.html?test=latestnews
China's president cut short a G8 summit trip to hurry home Wednesday after ethnic tensions soared in Xinjiang territory, with sobbing Muslim women scuffling with riot police and Chinese men with steel pipes and meat cleavers rampaging through the streets.
The new violence in Xinjiang's capital erupted Tuesday only a few hours after the city's top officials told reporters the streets in Urumqi were returning to normal following a riot that killed 156 people Sunday. The officials said more than 1,000 suspects had been rounded up since the spasm of attacks by Muslim Uighurs against Han Chinese, the ethnic majority.
In a rare move, President Hu Jintao cut short a trip to Italy to take part in a Group of Eight meeting later Wednesday to travel home to deal with the violence, the Foreign Ministry said on its Web site.
In Tuesday's chaos, hundreds of young Han men seeking revenge began gathering on sidewalks with kitchen knives, clubs, shovels and wooden poles. They spent most of the afternoon marching through the streets, smashing windows of Muslim restaurants and trying to push past police cordons protecting minority neighborhoods. Riot police successfully fought them back with volleys of tear gas and a massive show of force.
Urumqi had a heavy security presence Wednesday morning after an overnight curfew in the city of 2.3 million was lifted. Two helicopters flew over the city watching the scene.
Uighurs have said this week's rioting was triggered by the June 25 deaths of Uighur factory workers killed in a brawl in the southern Chinese city of Shaoguan. State-run media have said two workers died, but many Uighurs believe more were killed and said the incident was an example of how little the government cared about them.
The ugly scenes over the last several days highlight how far away the Communist Party is from one of its top goals: Creating a "harmonious society." The unrest was also an embarrassment for the Chinese leadership, which is getting ready to celebrate the 60th anniversary of Communist rule and wants to show it has created a stable country.
But harmony has been hard to achieve in Xinjiang, a rugged region three times the size of Texas with deserts, mountains and the promise of huge oil and natural gas reserves. Xinjiang is also the homeland for 9 million Uighurs (pronounced WEE-gers), a Turkic-speaking group.
Many Uighurs believe the Han Chinese, who have flooded into the region in recent years, are trying to crowd them out. They often accuse the Han of prejudice and waging campaigns to restrict their religion and culture.
The Han Chinese allege the Uighurs are backward and ungrateful for all the economic development and modernization the Han have brought to Xinjiang. They also complain that the Uighurs' religion — a moderate form of Sunni Islam — keeps them from blending into Chinese society, which is officially communist and largely secular.
U.N. High Commissioner for Human Rights Navi Pillay called the violence a "major tragedy" and said all sides should "exercise great restraint so as not to spark further violence and loss of life."
The authorities have been trying to control the unrest by blocking the Internet, including social networking sites such as Facebook, and limiting access to texting services on cell phones. At the same time, police have generally been allowing foreign media to cover the tensions.
In a sign the government was trying to address communal grievances after the factory brawl in southern China, the official Xinhua News Agency said Tuesday that 13 people had been arrested, including three from Xinjiang. Two others were arrested for spreading rumors on the Internet that Xinjiang employees had raped two female workers, the report said, citing a local police official.
Chinese officials dismiss claims that the Urumqi rioting was caused by long-simmering resentments among the Uighurs. They said the crowds were stirred up by U.S.-exiled Uighur activist Rebiya Kadeer and her overseas followers, who used the Internet to spread rumors.
"Using violence, making rumors, and distorting facts are what cowards do because they are afraid to see social stability and ethnic solidarity in Xinjiang," Foreign Ministry spokesman Qin Gang said in Beijing during a blistering verbal attack on Kadeer. She has denied the allegations.
In Washington, D.C., Kadeer accused China of inciting the ethnic violence, saying peaceful Uighur demonstrators have been targeted as part of the continuing repression in the region by the Chinese government.
"I'm not responsible," Kadeer, president of the Uyghur American Association said, during a rally. "The Chinese authorities instigated the violence."
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Gee I wonder where this PRC official learned this suggested course of action of executing rioters/protestors...oh riiight. 
http://news.yahoo.com/s/ap/20090708/ap_on_...s_china_protest
http://news.yahoo.com/s/ap/20090708/ap_on_...s_china_protest
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So why isn't Iran screaming bloody murder over their fellow Muslims in Xinjiang like they normally do for Palestine? Oh rigght. They got better relations with China. :
http://news.yahoo.com/s/ap/20090711/ap_on_re_as/as_china_protest
http://news.yahoo.com/s/ap/20090711/ap_on_re_as/as_china_protest
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The fact that most Chinese Muslims are Sunni might also account for Iran's antipathy towards them.
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E.R. Campbell said:
That thought came to me as well, but remember that aren't most of the Palestinians Sunni as well? But yet Iran is one of the most vocal critics of Israel.
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CougarDaddy said:
I think the very existence of Israel dominates the politics of the region. Sunni and Shia are united in their detestation of a Jewish state near the "heart" of Islam, occupying one of the holy places. In terms of competition for the leadership of the Arab/Persian (and North African and West Asian?) "community" it is vital to be the one that professes the most virulent hatred for Israel. A leading nation need not actually do anything about Israel. It can, as Egypt does, even have normal, peaceful relations with the Zionist state, but each Arab/Persian nation must, ritually, pronounce its loathing of Israel and the Jews, just as, equally ritually, Israel must protest and react against the Arab/Persian threats and periodic acts of terrorism.
Further, China is not the sort of nation against which one rants and raves with impunity. The Chinese are proud and prickly and prone to respond, forcefully, to perceived insults. (Juts look at the problems Canada has trying to gain “Approved Destination Status” for China’s millions of tourists. The Chinese are withholding it – and the high value trade it represents for Canada – as punishment for the Harper government’s amateurish policies towards China.)
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Yet another update.
From: Agence France-Presse - 7/13/2009 4:35 PM GMT
From: Agence France-Presse - 7/13/2009 4:35 PM GMT
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As said, China's government still has yet to provide more than scant evidence of an Al-Qaeda link to any Uighur dissenter group.
http://www.nationalpost.com/news/world/story.html?id=1789242
http://www.nationalpost.com/news/world/story.html?id=1789242
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A different way of viewing China. I found the final paragraph very interesting indeed, one rarely thinks of Turkey as being an international player anymore (after the dissolution of the Ottoman Empire during WWI).
http://www.forbes.com/2009/07/15/uighurs-china-great-game-russia-al-qaeda-opinions-contributors-charles-hill.html
http://www.forbes.com/2009/07/15/uighurs-china-great-game-russia-al-qaeda-opinions-contributors-charles-hill.html
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China admits Uighur riot killings
Chinese forces are still out
in force in Urumqi
A Chinese official says police shot dead 12 Uighur rioters in Urumqi this month,
in a rare government admission of deaths inflicted by security forces.
Nuer Baikeli, governor of Xinjiang region and himself a Uighur, said those killed
had ignored police warning shots and were attacking civilians and shops. He said
police had shown restraint and had no choice but to act.
Some 200 people - mostly Han Chinese - died in the clashes between Muslim
Uighurs and Han Chinese in Urumqi.
"The rioters, the criminals, continued to act in an extremely vicious manner,
insisted on having their way, and continued to threaten the lives of others,"
he told reporters. "It was at this point that our public security forces and
military police decisively fired. They shot dead 12 rioters. Of them, three
died on site, and nine died as people tried to save them."
The violence in Xinjiang began on 5 July during a protest by Uighurs over
a brawl in southern China in late June in which two people were killed.
Uighur groups in exile have said hundreds of Uighurs were killed.
Chinese forces are still out
in force in Urumqi
A Chinese official says police shot dead 12 Uighur rioters in Urumqi this month,
in a rare government admission of deaths inflicted by security forces.
Nuer Baikeli, governor of Xinjiang region and himself a Uighur, said those killed
had ignored police warning shots and were attacking civilians and shops. He said
police had shown restraint and had no choice but to act.
Some 200 people - mostly Han Chinese - died in the clashes between Muslim
Uighurs and Han Chinese in Urumqi.
"The rioters, the criminals, continued to act in an extremely vicious manner,
insisted on having their way, and continued to threaten the lives of others,"
he told reporters. "It was at this point that our public security forces and
military police decisively fired. They shot dead 12 rioters. Of them, three
died on site, and nine died as people tried to save them."
The violence in Xinjiang began on 5 July during a protest by Uighurs over
a brawl in southern China in late June in which two people were killed.
Uighur groups in exile have said hundreds of Uighurs were killed.
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This, admitting Uyghur deaths, is for internal consumption. The Han want some blood. Please note that every Chinese TV newscast, for days and days and days, will have played up the 200 Han casualties.
There is a large audience who need to be made to "understand" that the Uyghurs are violent separatists.
Now, in fairness, we Canadians were pretty excited when, back nearly 40 years ago, a gang of separatists here in Canada kidnapped a couple of "ranking" people and killed one of them. The old war Measures Act, with some pretty draconian provisions, was quickly applied and so on.
There is a large audience who need to be made to "understand" that the Uyghurs are violent separatists.
Now, in fairness, we Canadians were pretty excited when, back nearly 40 years ago, a gang of separatists here in Canada kidnapped a couple of "ranking" people and killed one of them. The old war Measures Act, with some pretty draconian provisions, was quickly applied and so on.
E.R. Campbell said:
Well you got to understand, the media is state controlled, you can't say anything else. The Han and Uyghur have been' living together for more than a 100 years. The problem is that the Communist Chinese government policy on minorities increased(because the "War on Terror") and the flood of Han to that region. Further more the economical despairity between the two is wide. Its like saying these bloody immigrants (Han) is taking all the good jobs, this fear this triggers violence, this also happened to Canada once upon a time. From speaking to friends, they don't really believe that this rioting was caused by terrorist groups, just bottle up ethnic hate and fear. Its easy to blame terrorist, because they could be anyone that the state deems to be.
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Actually, the Han and the Uyghur peoples have been living “together” for well over 2,000 years – usually none to happily, either. The Han started to “settle” the West when they needed to secure the Northern Silk Road; the Turkik peoples who lived there, herding, trading and raiding, were less than pleased to see them. The latest Han in migration is large and aims, specifically, to reduce the Uyghurs to (small) minority status by overwhelming them, peacefully.
Regarding Chinese media: It is true that all media is “state controlled” but there are many, many competing voices in print and, especially, on TV. There is a rough and competitive TV market featuring national government channels, provincial and city government channels and private channels. Any can be yanked off the air for a variety of infractions but it is very wrong to assume that there is one single message or one single voice. There is no message, not for long anyway, that runs too far counter to the Beijing party line, but not all the “messages” faithfully toe that line, either.
Regarding Chinese media: It is true that all media is “state controlled” but there are many, many competing voices in print and, especially, on TV. There is a rough and competitive TV market featuring national government channels, provincial and city government channels and private channels. Any can be yanked off the air for a variety of infractions but it is very wrong to assume that there is one single message or one single voice. There is no message, not for long anyway, that runs too far counter to the Beijing party line, but not all the “messages” faithfully toe that line, either.
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Another update about the upcoming conference/summit:
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