Church cancels gun giveaway for teens

[daftandbarmy]

Well, now that's a big disapointment.  Wasn't Oklahoma City Timothy McVeigh's ol' stompin' grounds?

Church cancels gun giveaway for teens

OKLAHOMA CITY, OKla. - After one of its organizers suffered an injury, a church was forced to cancel a gun giveaway at a weekend youth event.The Windsor Hills Baptist Church planned the giveaway as a way to draw new participants to the church's annual youth conference. The gun in question: an AR-15 semi-automatic assault rifle. Windsor Hills cancelled the giveaway Friday evening after announcing that Pastor Emeritus Jim Vineyard, who was running the event, had suffered a foot injury and would be unable to attend.

http://www.9news.com/news/watercooler/article.aspx?storyid=95647&catid=337

 

[xena]

"...suffered a foot injury."

As in a, "shot himself in the" type?   

 

[The Bread Guy]

Uh, thanks loads, Windsor Hills Baptist Church, for giving anti-gun folks ammo to use against safe, responsible gun owners....  :

 

[Fishbone Jones]

"...suffered a foot injury."

As in a, "shot himself in the" type?   

If you're insinuating that's what happened, post your link/ proof. All I read was

Windsor Hills cancelled the giveaway Friday evening after announcing that Pastor Emeritus Jim Vineyard, who was running the event, had suffered a foot injury and would be unable to attend.

. It doesn't say how he injured his foot, perhaps he tripped on the stairs. Nice inference though, just the sort of thing Wendy Cukier would turn into a truth.

Uh, thanks loads, Windsor Hills Baptist Church, for giving anti-gun folks ammo to use against safe, responsible gun owners....  :

And what is wrong or illegal about an organised/ supervised range activity? There is also nothing wrong with a raffle where the prize is a firearm. They did nothing wrong, yet you're vilifying them..........just like any other hoplophobe.

 

[xena]

Hmmm...  Recceguy, did they switch yours for decaf this morning?  My comment was A JOKE!  Okay, not a terribly good one, but it begged to be said, and I just did it before someone else did.  There.  I'll take the flak for a bad joke.  I wasn't aware that jokes required links or proof.  My apologies to all.  I will try to remember to link all my jokes in the future.  ;D

And for what it's worth I think milnewstbay was just conjecturing about how some anti-gun types are going to try to spin this into their propaganda.

 

[Fishbone Jones]

xena,
If you're going to joke about it, use the right smilie, or j/k or anything else you wish. Emotions don't come across in type, and you gave the distinct impression you knew something about it.

As for milnewsbay, I'm sure he can provide his own explanation.

As for what they do at their events, with the exception for the religious portion that I can forgo, it looks like a damn good, wholesome time. http://whbcyouthconference.org/?c=lastyear

Oh, and something about all those cups of kool-aid didn't strike me right either. j/k ;D

And for what it's worth I think milnewstbay was just conjecturing about how some anti-gun types are going to try to spin this into their propaganda.

...and all I'm saying is that, even off handed remarks, as above, do nothing to further the cause of law abiding gun owners.

 

[The Bread Guy]

And what is wrong or illegal about an organised/ supervised range activity? There is also nothing wrong with a raffle where the prize is a firearm. They did nothing wrong,

Fair question - I should have been more specific.  The story gives no indication re:  what assurances were in place to ensure the winner of said raffle, which is NOT the same as there being no such mechanism.  If there is, and MSM missed mentioning it, bad MSM - if there is NOT, bad organization.

yet you're vilifying them..........just like any other hoplophobe.

Never heard of the term "hoplophobe" before this.

1)  If I was clinically diagnosed with a phobia of guns, I'm guessing my military career, such as it was, would have been a lot shorter.

2)  I note the more recent use of the term, describing "gun control advocates, who may or may not have a genuine fear of guns, but rather wish to ban guns as a deterrent to violent crime."  To be clear, I am for reasonable gun control, but I am not for willy-nilly gun bans.  All I'm saying is that IF the organization was giving away weapons without ensuring they're going to safe, capable hands, they make it easier for TRUE Cooperian (?) hoplophobes to trumpet the need for rules that impose more of burden on law-abiding, responsible gun owners, and do nothing to stop the bad guys with guns.  I don't think that fits into Jeff Cooper's definition...

Oh, and something about all those cups of kool-aid didn't strike me right either. j/k ;D

Good one!

 

[xena]

Recceguy,

Sorry, thought I did use the right smilie thing.         

 

[Fishbone Jones]

Fair enough to both. As an avid shooter and collector, I realize that, in Canada, we are in for the fight of our lives, while 'holophobic' citizens and vote buying politicians, use our sport and tools as an agenda. An agenda that will see Canadians disarmed, and left to the mercy of the politicians and criminals (or are they the same thing : )

Fair question - I should have been more specific.  The story gives no indication re:  what assurances were in place to ensure the winner of said raffle, which is NOT the same as there being no such mechanism.  If there is, and MSM missed mentioning it, bad MSM - if there is NOT, bad organization.

I think you're trying to say something about permits and licensed people and transfers. I'm sure the transfers would all have been done above board and by the law. It's really no that big a deal down there. It's just up here with our anal laws and money grubbing bureaucrats, that things get complicated.

 

[The Bread Guy]

I think you're trying to say something about permits and licensed people and transfers. I'm sure the transfers would all have been done above board and by the law. It's really no that big a deal down there.

Not to mention something about MSM who either don't ask ALL the right questions or, if they do, don't include ALL the critical information.

It's just up here with our anal laws and money grubbing bureaucrats, that things get complicated.

And even though I don't own guns, I know all kinds of gun owners who I'd trust with my life with their weapons in their hands, and I'm all for NOT seeing it get more complicated for them.

 

[Fishbone Jones]

Not to mention something about MSM who either don't ask ALL the right questions or, if they do, don't include ALL the critical information.

That's pretty much a given. Present company excluded ;D

And even though I don't own guns, I know all kinds of gun owners who I'd trust with my life with their weapons in their hands, and I'm all for NOT seeing it get more complicated for them.

Thank you for your support.

 

[Michael OLeary]

While there are certainly two extreme ends of the gun control spectrum, I suspect that most citizens fall somewhere in the middle.  These people are usually labeled the silent majority.  The polarization of the issue by the parties at either end of that spectrum of opinion does not exempt the subject from light-hearted remarks, nor do such remarks suddenly place the poster at the "anti" end of the spectrum.  The subject of gun control should not be perceived here as a more restrictive topic than religion, gender, sexuality, politics, etc.

 

[Fishbone Jones]

While there are certainly two extreme ends of the gun control spectrum, I suspect that most citizens fall somewhere in the middle.  These people are usually labeled the silent majority.  The polarization of the issue by the parties at either end of that spectrum of opinion does not exempt the subject from light-hearted remarks, nor do such remarks suddenly place the poster at the "anti" end of the spectrum.  The subject of gun control should not be perceived here as a more restrictive topic than religion, gender, sexuality, politics, etc.

Just some simple misunderstanding that have sorted themselves out through dialogue.

 

[MedTechStudent]

....So, how bout that Church Gun Give-Away thing eh?!


Had it been a safe, well supervised event, you can be your bottom dollar I would have shown up for that AR-15 give-away.  I mean it is a little strange and comical to hear that the church is trying to draw in youth be giving out firearms.  Could that be interpreted as an assumption by the church that all young people love guns?    I'm offended. 

I'm just curious though, was this just destined to make news?

Had the guy not injured his foot would we not be reading the same story only titled "Church Cancels Holds Gun Giveaway For Teens"