CIL Officer Jailed

[elscotto937]

I believe that it is used, but the requirement for CIC is not the same as other members of the CF. For the CIC it‘s an Enhanced Reliability check... not like a level 2 or 3. In my understanding it is little more than a police background check. This is still used to check the ability to handle a level of protected material (in their case pers info of the Cadets and staff)not whether or not thier people are perverts.

 

[fusilier955]

CIC officers have to take an 8 day course to get their commision. According to my DCO, apparently they are not susposed to be saluted due to the fact that they are governed by CATOs, not QR&Os. I agree with Dorosh, think that prior military service should be required, most dont know their *** from their elbow.

 

[Gibson]

It doesn‘t matter what they are governed by. You salute the commission, so they get saluted. You don‘t have to like it, but you gotta do it.

 

[Jarnhamar]

Well THAT deffinatly has to change. 8 days and they hold a commision? Above that they are responsible for 12-18 year olds? Wow.

 

[Excolis]

CIC is a component of the reserve guys, and i agree with everyone on what we should do to deal with this guy, i will be back later though.

 

[Jarnhamar]

Component of the reserves? Hows that?

 

[Michael Dorosh]

Originally posted by Ghost778:
[qb] Component of the reserves? Hows that? [/qb]

It‘s true. CIC officers hold the Queen‘s Commission and are entitled to a salute, and constitute part of the Canadian Forces.

I will emphasize that I have known some pretty dedicated and hard working CIC officers in my time and really don‘t know any of the ones currently serving - so my comments are not a slam on them. But I was a cadet myself for 3 years and we had some rather odd characters in charge of us; then again, there were some very odd characters in the Militia who would assist in our training also.

 

[elscotto937]

I have worked with the Cadet Program for a few years and there are some outstanding indivduals who I have met who work with the CIC (CIL). But the little experience required and limited training reflect poorly on these dedicated persons. In my experience, limited as it maybe, the best CIC officers have been retired service personnel. They have the experience and the time to put toward this worthwhile organization. Although I see "real" military experience as necessary, I don‘t want to be so nieve as to eliminate interested persons who come from the teaching profession and other professions with a similar basis on youth.
And as far as the saluting goes, if you are of an inferior rank to the commissioned officer you are meeting then you have to salute them. Your salute is based more on your pride in being in uniform than thier rank. Wow, I was long winded today, must have been the late night last night..