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I'm no legal egal isn't that really just a bunch of ways to say on duty ?
Again, just a clarifying question, no debate intended.
Only when on the Kings dime, no ? If a reservist is not on duty they are not held to the CSD, correct ?
Standing by to be corrected.
Yes, but...I'm no legal egal isn't that really just a bunch of ways to say on duty ?
Again, just a clarifying question, no debate intended.
What I was alluding to was that a Class A reservist can sit on their thumb waiting for a plumb B or C posting to arrive and then decide if they like the terms. And if it looks like orders are coming their way that they don't like there isn't much to stop a voluntary release.Yes, but...
Arguably, a reservist working as a DND public servant is subject to the CSD when at work at a DND facility, or when visiting Parliament Hill when the changing of if the guard occurs, when traveling to and from a parade night in uniform...
Whether or not local JAG would recommend proceeding with a summary hearing or a court martial in one of those instances is another, different conversation.
What I was alluding to was that a Class A reservist can sit on their thumb waiting for a plumb B or C posting to arrive and then decide if they like the terms. And if it looks like orders are coming their way that they don't like there isn't much to stop a voluntary release.
There’s an excellent interview with a fire chief from red deer going on CBC right now. In a minutes he’s made two critical points:
1. Joint Emergency Preparedness Program grant was cancelled in 2013, cost sharing model between three levels of government to off set specialized equipment. He pointed out 50% of fire departments deferred buying equipment last year.
2. There is no national seat at the table for fire services to be part of a national planning cycle. To be that’s outrageous.
When asked what the role the CAF has to play “they do a great job when they come in, but with the deepest respect they aren’t fire fighters.”
Ah what you’re missing is that the association of fire chiefs, whom this fella represents as president, wants to be at the table nationally. So they can have a national plan for these thing. JEPP allowed a pot of money from the feds to be accessed by municipal and provincial services to buy kit. Now they don’t have that, fires are worse, and we keep getting called out.From the municipal POV fire services are a municipal responsibility, paid for out of local taxes.
Wildland Fire Fighters are a Provincial responsibility, paid for out of provincial taxes.
If the Feds want them at the table, let them pay for it![]()
Ah what you’re missing is that the association of fire chiefs, whom this fella represents as president, wants to be at the table nationally. So they can have a national plan for these thing. JEPP allowed a pot of money from the feds to be accessed by municipal and provincial services to buy kit. Now they don’t have that, fires are worse, and we keep getting called out.
Because the CAF is “free”…The CAF wouldn't be called out if the Provinces hired enough Wildland Fire Fighters, most of the time.
If, as in 2017, it looked like they had to evacuate Williams Lake, absolutely the CAF could be deployed to help out with that uniquely challenging situation.
But fire clean up duties? Anyone can do that after some pretty basic training, so why call in the CAF...
Because organized manual labour is surprisingly hard to findThe CAF wouldn't be called out if the Provinces hired enough Wildland Fire Fighters, most of the time.
If, as in 2017, it looked like they had to evacuate Williams Lake, absolutely the CAF could be deployed to help out with that uniquely challenging situation.
But fire clean up duties? Anyone can do that after some pretty basic training, so why call in the CAF...
Because organized manual labour is surprisingly hard to find
… so the CAF yet again?Bring back press gangs ?
Basically:I'm no legal egal isn't that really just a bunch of ways to say on duty ?
Again, just a clarifying question, no debate intended.
The BC Wildfire Act actually has a section that gives fire officials the authority to do just that. Any able bodied person over 19 can be ordered to carry out fire control duties, as long as what they are being ordered to do is within their skill and knowledge ability.Bring back press gangs ?
You attend a Community event (charity book fair, let’s say) in an Armoury, in civvies. Subject to the CSD…Basically:
On duty (ie being paid at the time)
in a DND facility, building, property, vehicle
in uniform
An example was a time where we had to determine if someone was subject to the CSD as part of an investigation into an incident at a regimental ball. The Ball was at a civy hotel, not a paid event but members were in mess kit.
Not on duty (ie not being paid) not at a DND facility but…in uniform. It was determined that the member was subject to the CSD at the time.
1984Bring back press gangs ?
The Feds want to do just enough to make grand statements and PR events. They will have a pot of money that due to the requirements to apply for it, very little gets used.Ah what you’re missing is that the association of fire chiefs, whom this fella represents as president, wants to be at the table nationally. So they can have a national plan for these thing. JEPP allowed a pot of money from the feds to be accessed by municipal and provincial services to buy kit. Now they don’t have that, fires are worse, and we keep getting called out.
The BC Wildfire Act actually has a section that gives fire officials the authority to do just that. Any able bodied person over 19 can be ordered to carry out fire control duties, as long as what they are being ordered to do is within their skill and knowledge ability.