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Coming in as an Officier at 17 years old.

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Narcisse

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Hi everyone,

My question is : How does youngs officers are host or treaty when they first come in the CF ? Are they welcome or the oldest
make their life hard ?

I heard that the others doesn't like the new youngest officiers when they are coming in. They appreciate that a new officer has previously served as a soldier or NCM before. Is that true ?

I'm waiting for a call to get on BOQ. I'm 17 and I applied for Artillery Officer. I am certain that I am not the only one affected by this issue.

Thanks for answering !
 
I looked around some threads but it doesn't really help me at all. I saw nothing about the question I was asking.
 
Narcisse said:
How does youngs officers are host or treaty when they first come in the CF ? Are they welcome or the oldest
make their life hard ?

Officer Cadets/candidates are treated like any new recruit in the CF, in the manner that they have alot of work to proof they have what it takes to serve as mbrs of the CF.  As potential future Officers, they had the added requirement to proof their leadership and command potential.  The first part of their training is IAP, which stands for Initial Assessment Period.  They will perform and be assessed on minor leadership roles to assess their suitability to continue on training.

The Instructors may make their life difficult or challenging but that is their job.  They are welcomed as a member of the CF, but one with quite a bit of work to do, lots of new concepts to learn and put into practice, and to switch from being a civilian to a Subordinate Officer. 

I heard that the others doesn't like the new youngest officiers when they are coming in. They appreciate that a new officer has previously served as a soldier or NCM before. Is that true ?

Newly trained Officers with no previous experience have lots to prove, where a former NCM has "been there, done that" to a certain extent depending on their previous experience.  However, some NCMs, IAW current policy, are required to complete the IAP/BOTP, or BOTP alone portions of the BMOQ if they did not complete certain training as NCMs.  Later, in the MOC training, ALL candidates are assessed on the same standard, regardless of where they came from.

I am not sure I would use the term "don't like" but I would say "have yet to give them their trust and respect", which comes with time, and applies in both directions, as Officers must learn to trust their subordinates, who learn to trust their own subordinates, etc.

I think it is person-dependent, as I've known some Officers who were NCMs previously and didn't stop thinking like an NCM, which can be a bad thing sometimes.   

My last statement is, being a competent and respected Officer does not tie directly into being a former NCO.  The best Junior Officer I ever served under was an awesome leader, but was never an NCM. 

You will hear all kinds of opinions on this, of course.  Listen to what everyone says, keep your eyes and ears open if/when you get in, and form your own opinion, hopefully not solely based on other people's opinions, such as my own.   8)

 
If you are joining as an officer at 17 years old....it will be quite a few years before you are placed in charge of anything or anybody. You have school to do and trades training.

 
Yes sure. I'll have IAP to do and BOTP. And lots of others courses. However, I'll surely be in the youngest. Thanks for all these infos.
 
I'm coming in with the CEOTP. So I'm going to do my university degree while working in the CF.
 
Narcisse said:
However, I'll surely be in the youngest.

::)

You wont be alone so dont worry about it.

I'm coming in with the CEOTP. So I'm going to do my university degree while working in the CF

Stop fucking worrying about it........
 
Narcisse said:
I'm coming in with the CEOTP. So I'm going to do my university degree while working in the CF.

I'm with CDN Aviator (believe it or not) on this one, don't worry about it. You don't have your age marked above your rank. People should (and usually are) more concerned about what you do, not how old you are.
 
Yes surely. Thanks for all of these good answers but the better one, I think, has been sent me by private message.

I'll paste it without the writter name.

As a young person, you may face considerable more challenges than an older person.  Quite a few of these challenges can be internally generated while others may come from external factors.

Don't expect fair treatment -- anyone who tells you that you'll face equal consideration is either an idealist, a liar, or an idiot.  You will be expected to be in better shape than people older than you and you will be expected to perform better than older people.  How you respond to these problems is up to you.

You will have to work harder to earn the same respect others may earn for free.  While all men are equal, some of us have to work harder to be as equal as others.  That doesn't mean everyone will respect you, nor does it mean you should bend over backwards for everyone.

Lead by example.  This means not just setting the example, but be seen exceeding the standard you expect of others.  I cannot fathom a leader who cannot do what he expects of me and I find it disgusting to think of a leader unwilling to do what he expects of me.  If you run, they will walk.  If you walk, they will stop.  If you stop, they will quit.

Ultimately, the respect you earn, the respect you deserve, is the respect you work towards... and it directly correlates to the respect you give others.

This is what I was looking for.


 
Well there you go,

Another satisfied customer.

Locked with the usual you know whats'

dileas

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