Oh yeah, I agree completely ... but not too many gov'ts stay on top of the things he has listed. That is the job of naval engineers and licenced tradesmen etc. I would like to think that pride in workmanship exists, and it probably does to a certain extent. But here's the rub .... tradesman employed in the industry need steady, reliable work to provide their families with a good life, and they just aren't getting that with MoD or DND contracts. The result is that the contractors and fitters are left with a mixed bag of a small number of high seniority professionals and a large number of inexperienced transient workers who live project to project, industry to industry. They are not being given the sense of opportunity to conclude they have a vested interest in the final project, and for many, they would much rather be doing something else.