"Conduct After Capture" Training Material "Purged"

[SeanNewman]

So is SHARP, either in its previous form or another incarnation, not conducted during basic these days?

SHARP itself has been dead for a while.  We still get bi-annual harassment briefings, but now it's much more common-sense based.

Thankfully, the over-PC days are over and the rules themselves have changed.  For example, you can't claim harassment as person X if person Y said something to person Z that you didn't like.

It's all based on the concept of "What would a rational person think is acceptable?"  Of course at the end of the day the person making that call is going to be the CO.

So if you still do something stupid like tap a woman on the butt as she walks by you at work, you're going down.  But if you work with a woman and one day she does something drastically different with your hair and you say something like "Hi, I think the change looks really good on you", while before that would have been unacceptable would now probably be fine*

*Note* Just giving hypothetical examples here, your experience may vary.

 

[Jarnhamar]

you say something like "Hi, I think the change looks really good on you", while before that would have been unacceptable would now probably be fine*

Could someone actually get in shit for saying this to a female coworker?

 

[kratz]

I know it's a rhetorical question, but based on the SHARP training we were provided in the 90s, yes people could potentially have gotten in trouble for such a simple comment.

I remember the highlight of that course, one frustrated person asked if they'd get charged for thinking certain hypothetical thoughts.
The sincerely honest instructor's answer was if said thought could be proven, yes.

In all honesty though, I have not seen anyone get in trouble for something so simple.

 

[PuckChaser]

Could someone actually get in crap for saying this to a female coworker?

It would depend on a lot of factors, including the tone. The rule now is "would reasonably aught to have known it would be offensive to that person." If you had good intentions and can explain that, you won't be getting in trouble.

 

[Sig_Des]

Could someone actually get in crap for saying this to a female coworker?

*Not a Harassment Advisor, just patched memory from SHARP training 6+ years ago*

My understanding is that all that is required for a member to make a harrassment complaint based on a statement is the perceived intent of the statement.

Ergo, you could make the statement "Hi, I think the change looks really good on you" in a completely innocent and complimentary manner, but if the person being complimented even THOUGHT you were being innappropriate, they would have grounds to make a complaint.

Now, common sense to me would say this would go to an HA/Mediator, who would then investigate, and hopefully toss it out, but these days, who knows.