CTV News Report from Faslane! Slag Off

[Big Bad John]

I am very browned off at the closing statement by Lisa LaFlamme tonight.  After airing a very emotional interview with the Chicoutimi's Coxswain Chief Petty Officer Shane Irvine.  In her closing remark , she said that 95% of the crew wanted to come back to see the tasking to patriate the boat.  But she didn't think that the Cox would be their as he is 50 years old.  What gives her the right to slag the man! 

I am generally very disappointed with the media coverage.  CPO Irvine is referred to on the CTV website as "Chief petty officer Shane Irvine".  These are reporters who can't even put capital letters in their place.

No Offense to my Army brethren, but Lieutenant Chris Saunders will have a funeral with full Naval, not Military honours.  So many discrepancies and these writers and reporters are educating the public on the subject. 

Doesn't the media here spend time in  the field or on bases with the Canadian Forces?

Thank you for letting me vent here, but I get frustrated with the disinformation given out by the Canadian media.  It must frustrate serving Troops!

 

[canuck101]

Most of the media does not do there research, if you noticed they always seem to find experts that give them info that they work from.

 

[Scoobie Newbie]

Hell you can see typos in the Maple Leaf.
Big Bad John I have sent you a PM.

 

[Big Bad John]

I though this PM between CFL and myself would be educational.  It is in two posts.

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What consists of a full naval funeral and how does it differ from a military funeral?
If I read your profile right your in the Royal Marines.  I just want to thank you (the British Navy) for the outstanding job they did helping recover our injured submariners and helping with getting the sub back.

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[Big Bad John]

To start off with, he was a Naval Officer so his funeral will be in accordance with Naval tradition.  As regiments have their traditions, so do services.  To go to extreme, if the Prime Minister dies, he does not get a military funeral, even though the services will be involved.  He will get a state funeral.

We all watched and prayed for the Submariners on the Chicoutimi.  We are family and comrades in arms.  How could we not give our all.  Remember the Naval Hymn of the RN and the CAF:

Eternal Father, strong to save,
Whose arm hath bound the restless wave,
Who bidst the mighty ocean deep
Its own appointed limits keep:
O hear us when we cry to Thee
For those in peril on the sea.

O Christ, whose voice the waters heard,
And hushed their raging at Thy word,
Who walkedst on the foaming deep,
And calm amidst the storm didst sleep:
O hear us when we cry to Thee
For those in peril on the sea.

O Holy Spirit, who didst brood
Upon the waters dark and rude,
And bid their angry tumult cease,
And give, for wild confusion, peace:
O hear us when we cry to Thee
For those in peril on the sea.

O Trinity of love and power,
Our brethren's shield in danger's hour;
From rock and tempest, fire and foe,
Protect them whereso'er they go:
Thus evermore shall rise to Thee
Glad hymns of praise from land and sea.



The Naval Hymn was written in 1860 by the clergyman William Whiting,
after surviving a storm on the Mediterannean Sea.
In 1861, John B. Dykes set it to the tune "Melita".

  This is nicknamed "For those on peril on the sea"

With your permission I would like to post these two PM's to the thread.

Your comrade,
John

 

[G .Dundas]

Most of the media does not do there research, if you noticed they always seem to find experts that give them info that they work from.
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I work at a prov.crown corporation our public affairs types by and large tend to hold the media in bemused contempt.According to one of them media type do'nt need to know anything about anything as result most of them seem to go out of their way to prove that statement.

 

[brin11]

I saw the same interview and remember the closing remarks.  I thought they were pretty inappropriate at the time as the way she stated them it sounded a bit too personal.  Although, I wondered if the Coxswain told her this himself.  I didn't see it in the interview but perhaps he mentioned not going back as he thought he was getting too old.

Just an idea.

 

[Art Johnson]

It always annoys me when the media refer to a Guard of Honour as an Honor Guard (an American term).

 

[rw4th]

It always annoys me when the media refer to a Guard of Honour as an Honor Guard

I have never heard it refered to as a Guard of Honor. The only term I have ever heard in Honor Guard.

 

[McInnes]

Honour in the Queen's English, not honor. 

 

[Big Bad John]

"Crew members of HMCS Windsor and Corner Brook will provide a Guard of Honour. " from the CTV web site!

They finally got something right!

 

[Scoobie Newbie]

There is probably some navel NCO off camera threatening to beat them with a stick.

 

[dglad]

If it makes you feel any better, it's far from just the military that gets caught up in media sloppiness.  I've been interviewed  by the media in my civilian capacity about stories related to mining, mineral exploration, gold discoveries, and it's truly remarkable how much they can screw up a story.  Real example from a few years back, while working as a provincial government geologist--someone finds what I clearly tell a newspaper reporter is "evidence of diamonds" occurring in a particular area; the newspaper turns around and says that a "diamond mine" has been found.  Those are not the same thing--ask a mining investor!

The truly disheartening/scary thing is how much we rely on this creaky, careless, overworked, understaffed, sloppy and frequently biased machine call the "media" for our view of the world, and the decisions we base on it--everything from what stocks to buy and sell to how to vote.  That's why whenever I hear that organizations like the CIA get some of their primary int from CNN I have to shake my head and think, okay, and they're advising the President of the United States on foreign policy....yikes!