Deferment of Career Course

[Navy1234]

Hello,

  I am hoping someone can point me in the right direction, I am looking for any documentation on course deferment policy.  I recently was loaded onto a course and the message mentions deferment but gives no real information on what it means.  I have checked CFAO,DAOD,and QR&O but can't seem to find anything. My message refers to CFAO 9-15 -- COURSE SCHEDULING AND LOADING -IN-SERVICE COURSES but this doesn't mention anything that I could find. 


Thanks.

 

[navymich]

Hello,

  I am hoping someone can point me in the right direction, I am looking for any documentation on course deferment policy.  I recently was loaded onto a course and the message mentions deferment but gives no real information on what it means.  I have checked CFAO,DAOD,and QR&O but can't seem to find anything. My message refers to CFAO 9-15 -- COURSE SCHEDULING AND LOADING -IN-SERVICE COURSES but this doesn't mention anything that I could find. 

I'm assuming that you have already gone through your divisional system with your reasons for deferment and/or to ask for references for such, or to inquire as to the procedure and consequences??

 

[Navy1234]

Hi,

  I have already asked about the course and expressed the fact that I do not wish to go (and why I felt that way) and in the process thought twice about it and never asked for references.  I will be checking in with the ships office tommorrow but I was hoping to get a head start tonight if there is any actual documentation that can be accessed from the  internet.


Thanks 

 

[navymich]

Here is the link for DAODs, QR&Os and CFAOs on the internet.  I just took a quick peek through and couldn't find anything, but you might with a more thorough search.

 

[aesop081]

IIRC, look for something entitled CAREER POLICY - NON-COMISSIONED MEMBERS

 

[navymich]

Good call Cdn Aviator.  From CFAO 49-4:

40. In the event that a member (except for a member on initial QL3 training) cannot attend training for personal or medical reasons, or has requested in writing to be excluded from training, or fails a training course or examination normally required for employment or rank or MOC progression, the CO or the training authority, as applicable, shall inform NDHQ/DPCOR by message of the following details:

    a.  SIN, rank, surname, initials, and MOC of the member;


    b.  the course or examination failed or declined, and in the case of
          the course or examination failure, the date when the member was
          or will be advised;


    c.  the circumstances of the failure or reasons for declining the
          course or examination;


    d.  any mitigating circumstances;


    e.  the recommendations of the CO or training authority, as
          applicable; and


    f.  confirmation that the member has been counselled as to the career
          implications outlined in paragraph 41.


Note -- When a training authority initiates the message referred to above,
the member's unit shall be included as an information addressee.


41. Superseded by DAOD 5019-2, Administrative Review

And the link for DAOD 5019-2 http://www.admfincs.forces.gc.ca/admfincs/subjects/daod/5019/2_e.asp

 

[armyvern]

See DAOD 5031-8 (Canadian Forces Professional Development)
-specificly under "Responsibilities" of the "Member" heading WRT Career Courses

http://www.admfincs.forces.gc.ca/admfincs/subjects/daod/5031/8_e.asp

CFAO 49-4

NON-COMPLETION OF TRAINING
40.    In the event that a member (except for a member on initial QL3
training) cannot attend training for personal or medical reasons, or has
requested in writing to be excluded from training, or fails a training
course or examination normally required for employment or rank or MOC
progression, the CO or the training authority, as applicable, shall inform
NDHQ/DPCOR by message of the following details:
     a.   SIN, rank, surname, initials, and MOC of the member;

     b.   the course or examination failed or declined, and in the case of
          the course or examination failure, the date when the member was
          or will be advised;

     c.   the circumstances of the failure or reasons for declining the
          course or examination;

     d.   any mitigating circumstances;

     e.   the recommendations of the CO or training authority, as
          applicable; and

     f.   confirmation that the member has been counselled as to the career
          implications outlined in paragraph 41.

Note -- When a training authority initiates the message referred to above,
the member's unit shall be included as an information addressee.

41.    Superseded by DAOD 5019-2, Administrative Review

42.    In cases when a member relinquished a rank or appointment on OT, a CRB
directing OT back to the original MOC may authorize restoration of the
member's original rank or appointment and seniority held in that MOC.

43.    When retention is with career restrictions, removal of the career
restriction may be considered by the CRB only if there is a change of
circumstances and the CO so recommends.

DAOD 5019-2:  http://www.admfincs.forces.gc.ca/admfincs/subjects/daod/5019/2_e.asp

If you are refusing a career course, you should be putting your reason for refusal officially in writing. This decision may cause an Adm Review dependant upon the circumstances. So I'd make very sure that your resons for refusal are extremely good ones; after all it's your career that could be on the line.


Edited to add: Geez Mich...you are quicker than me today!!!  ;D

 

[aesop081]

Good call Cdn Aviator.  From CFAO 49-4:

You would almost think i knew what i was doing.........almost

 

[armyvern]

You would almost think i knew what i was doing.........almost

Why you could almost be a Librarian or an AirMich!!  >

 

[Navy1234]

Hello,


  Thank you everyone, much appreciated.

 

[aesop081]

Why you could almost be a Librarian or an AirMich!!  >

But you see, i'm a step above.  I pointed the individual in the right direction without spoonfeeding him/her the answer.

 

[navymich]

Why you could almost be a Librarian or an AirMich!!  >

Ahhh, that goal that so many strive for.  8)