Dominionists

[Kalatzi]

I started this thread since this was not a term that I was acquainted with until recently.

My intent is to acquaint others that might be in the same boat with them.

If you consider yourself to be a small l liberal, as I do, that like me you will be very uneasy with them. 

As well as have a better sense of how things are going here in the West.

I recall the old adage to not discuss sex, religion and politics in the mess becaure of the heat they were likely to generate.

Well this involves the laster two, so will try not to diddy bop.

So rather than try to define the term myself Í'll simply provide some starting points to allow you to form your own opinions.

The timing seems to be appropriate since the Israeli PM is coming to try to convinnce PM Harper to come onboard in support of futher actions against Iran.

If this is of interest a good starting point is here http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Dominionism

This is a subject that I'm am still learning and hope you will as well.

Since I can get carried away, and am under a friendly warning for my posts in the Robocall thread, I dont feel I have too much more useful to add to this topic.

Obviously I have concerns about this movement. No, I don't care to elaborate. But respect its right to exist.

Finally my intent is too infrom, not offend.

 

[Osotogari]

I wonder why there should be a concern at all.  Anyone can participate in the political process, regardless of to what degree their beliefs inform their moral outlook.  If I was inclined to participate in the political process, I could probably be categorized in this matter myself. 

If anything, your unease should be a sign that you may harbour a prejudice. 

 

[Remius]

It is an extreme form of chritianity as far as I can tell.  No different than any form of religion.  There will always be extremists. 

However I am wondering what Netanyahu's visit has anything to do with what you are saying.  Are you linking Harper or Netanyahu or both to Dominionism?

 

[Kalatzi]

This is a leaning thing for me as well.

I feel that the movement definetly has traction iun the Republican right.

I can also state that many of the more extreme proponents on the movement are very strong supporters of Israel.

My concern such as it is is I see myself as a small L liberal, a Canadian, and a libertarian.

My prefererence for a mid-east policy is more of a return to our more neutral days.

If I were an American i would be a supporter of Ron Paul.


I hope this helps to clarify

 

[Remius]

This is a leaning thing for me as well.

I feel that the movement definetly has traction iun the Republican right.

I can also state that many of the more extreme proponents on the movement are very strong supporters of Israel.

My concern such as it is is I see myself as a small L liberal, a Canadian, and a libertarian.

My prefererence for a mid-east policy is more of a return to our more neutral days.

If I were an American i would be a supporter of Ron Paul.


I hope this helps to clarify

This does not in fact help to clarify.  I'm more confused than I was before.

 

[Fishbone Jones]

This is a leaning thing for me as well.

I feel that the movement definetly has traction iun the Republican right.

I can also state that many of the more extreme proponents on the movement are very strong supporters of Israel.

My concern such as it is is I see myself as a small L liberal, a Canadian, and a libertarian.

My prefererence for a mid-east policy is more of a return to our more neutral days.

If I were an American i would be a supporter of Ron Paul.


I hope this helps to clarify

You also cannot be a liberal, small or otherwise, and a libertarian at the same time :

If you're that confused about yourself, how do you think the rest of us feel trying to unravel your posts?

 

[dapaterson]

You also cannot be a liberal, small or otherwise, and a libertarian at the same time :

If you're that confused about yourself, how do you think the rest of us feel trying to unravel your posts?

To the contrary - a classical liberal is a libertarian.

 

[Fishbone Jones]

To the contrary - a classical liberal is a libertarian.

Please, classic liberals are not what is considered in this country when speaking of liberals, especially small 'l' ones.

 

[Kalatzi]

Many feel that the movement is part of the reasson for the strong US-Israeli connection.

In my opnion it is partly repsonsible for our swing to a more pro-Israeli stance.

How you feel about that is of course up to you.

 

[Fishbone Jones]

Many feel that the movement is part of the reasson for the strong US-Israeli connection.

In my opnion it is partly repsonsible for our swing to a more pro-Israeli stance.

How you feel about that is of course up to you.

You're getting excited and typing too fast.

Start using your spellcheck.

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[fraserdw]

Personally, I like a swing in stance.  I am proud to to be a pork eating crusader, even go the hat!!!!!!

 

[Kalatzi]

Crusader Hat??? Dont you mean Helm?

I understand that thehy were prertty hot and uncomfortable.

Each to their own.

Like any other group I'm fine with the vast majority.

I imagine that the Pastor of the Westboro church falls into this category.


What's his name? Torquemada - The Spanish Inquisition would be an extreme example.
I think most people would  uncomfortable with them , especially the later

 

[Loachman]

In my opnion it is partly repsonsible for our swing to a more pro-Israeli stance.

Perhaps it has much more to do with the fact that Israel is the only free democracy in the whole Middle east, and one of the very few countries there that has not declared the complete destruction of a neighbour to be a holy national priority.

Spellcheck and logic can both be your friends, if you use them.

 

[fraserdw]

Crusader Hat??? Dont you mean Helm?

I understand that thehy were prertty hot and uncomfortable.

Each to their own.

Actually I mean a CP Gear ball hat in Cadpat Arid that says "Pork Eating Crusader" in English and Arabic.  It is in reference to the fact that the AQ is trying to tie the war on terror to the crusades, thus rather than get up set we have a laugh at it.  I guess you are not in the army it been a standing joke for some time around here.

 

[fraserdw]

Now back to the topic.  Are we in the grip of Dominionist, I doubt that.  The present conservative government is left of centre from my understanding of conservatism and, at best, there are maybe 2 or 3 backbenchers that would be right of centre.  Certainly, as I see my politics I consider myself centre with a bit of bent toward right on crime issues and huge bent to the right on private porperty issues.

 

[RangerRay]

I highly doubt it.  It is no secret that PM Harper comes from the economic libertarian side of the Tories rather than the religious side.  He avoids religious issues like the plague, except to say "God bless Canada".

To suggest that the government backs Israel because it is in the grasp of Christian extremists is laughable.

 

[Kalatzi]

Re the Hat - I've been retired for years.

In retrospect, starting this thread was an error in judgment on my part. 

For those who wish more information please consider the following "The Armageddon Factor"by Marcy Mcdonald  It woulld be a MUCH more appropriate title for this thread.

I have read the book it cam out in 2010. It received very favourable review from ma instrem media.  It also generated a LOT of very negative press from a number of parties mentioned in it. I feel that it is very well written and meticulously researched. 

As many of you know I am no fan of PM Harper, our country is being more affected by some of the more unpleasant changes in US society.

For that reason I think it apt to do homework, so as to better try to understand what may be going on.

 

[Kalatzi]

Darn, looks like to I have to proof read also.

 

[Fishbone Jones]

Re the Hat - I've been retired for years.

In retrospect, starting this thread was an error in judgment on my part. 

For those who wish more information please consider the following "The Armageddon Factor"by Marcy Mcdonald  It woulld be a MUCH more appropriate title for this thread.

I have read the book it cam out in 2010. It received very favourable review from ma instrem media.  It also generated a LOT of very negative press from a number of parties mentioned in it. I feel that it is very well written and meticulously researched. 

As many of you know I am no fan of PM Harper, our country is being more affected by some of the more unpleasant changes in US society.

For that reason I think it apt to do homework, so as to better try to understand what may be going on.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PS8dNzRhMgk&feature=related

 

[fraserdw]

Whats going on is very simple, we have moved from having our soldiers tied to lamp poles in their blue hats to being one of the must have shock troops of our Allies, just like before the Trudeauites sold the nation to leftist welfare niks.  We are Professional and COnfident and our government is reaping some of the benefits of us winning back our reputation that had been so throughly soiled by Liberal mismanagement and UN "military" command.  Rant ends!  God bless the CADPAT where ever it boots tramp!