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Draft Dodger Reunion - this summer in BC

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Draft dodger reunion set for this summer in B.C.


GREG JOYCE

Canadian Press

Vancouver — The statue and what it honoured — young Americans dodging the Vietnam War draft by coming to Canada — created an international kerfuffle two years ago and has since been shuffled between municipalities who found it too controversial.

But it now has a home.

The art will be housed in a private gallery in Nelson, B.C., and should be on view when a long-planned reunion of Vietnam War draft resisters — also known as draft dodgers — is held this summer.

Some organizers involved in the four-day Our Way Home Peace Event and Reunion in July were in Vancouver on Tuesday to show the media a clay likeness of the 2.7-metre bronze statue.

The statue depicts a Canadian welcoming with open arms two Americans.

“This piece is also coming forward at a time when there is terrific militarism in the world and it's showing Americans who came out of conscience, who took another path,” reunion organizer Isaac Romano said.

“The opportunity with this is for us to always remember that 35 years after the Vietnam War, there have been noted accomplishments (by the resisters) to Canadian life.”

The statue was initially slated to be put on public display in Nelson almost two years ago, not long after Mr. Romano moved to Nelson from Seattle. He was a Vietnam war resister.

Some veterans were offended and they got a sympathetic ear from the U.S. ambassador to Canada at the time, Paul Cellucci.

The City of Nelson initially supported the statue and reunion but withdrew its support in face of the controversy.

Earlier this month, reunion organizers announced the statue would be placed in the Doukhobor Village Museum in Castlegar, a half-hour drive from Nelson, but that city subsequently rejected the plan.

The reunion is still scheduled to be held at the Brilliant Cultural Centre in Castlegar, from July 6-9 with George McGovern, a former senator and presidential candidate, as keynote speaker.

Another former high-profile anti-war activist, Tom Hayden, is also speaking, said Mr. Romano.

“It will be a major peace event which will likely bring people from all over North America coming to Castlegar this summer for one of the most important peace events of our lifetime,” said Mr. Romano.

He defended the reunion as a way to honour not only the draft resister, but also the Canadians who welcomed them.

“Due to the militarism of the U.S., we likely will want to remember in Canada the role that Canadians played by the thousands in assisting those that came to Canada,” he said.

He said 2006 is also a “challenging time because of Canada's military activities in Afghanistan and the decision to take an offensive role.”

About 100,000 Americans came to Canada to avoid the Vietnam War, with about half eventually returning to the U.S. to take advantage of an amnesty provided by President Jimmy Carter, said Mr. Romano.

Sculptor Naomi Lewis said the statue should be viewed from Canadians' point of view.

“I see it from the Canadians' perspective, welcoming people in need and warmly giving them an avenue to find a safe home away from their concerns,” she said.
 
nice place for a bunker-buster.

Oh, the wonderful irony if they were to be targeted by terrs!
 
Terrs?

Not familiar with that - you mean terrorists?  Is that a typo or a new abbreviation I havent seen?
 
I'm good with it. These guys didn't want to fight and they went to another country. Now they've given themselves a statue and they can have a love in around it. Power to 'em. It was a different situation in another time and it doesn't reflect today's reality. They can try to make a connection to militarism and the US (war on terror, etc.) but that really isn't the issue. So sit back, run naked through the woods of Nelson, channel Jerry Garcia if you can and smoke a fatty if that's your pleasure. Mind if I hang with your daughter Bud? ;)
 
"nice place for a bunker-buster."        

I second you on that one Paracowboy  
 
I don't know how they can draw a real comparison between Vietnam Draft Dodgers and those guys who come North nowdays.
The biggest difference being the draft,
Granted they both object to their generations' wars, but the "dodgers" of today signed up voluntarily for the military.

If anything, associating their cause with todays deserters in the face of perceived US militarism kills what sympathy they might have garnered.

I'm with Enzo, I don't care, they can have their drum circle and go back to teaching at UVic, I'm not playing their "look at me" game.
 
People who left their country in its time of need.  Gathering in BC Canada.  I bet Sven Robinson shows up.  Hide your jewelry weakies!
 
Che said:
I don't know how they can draw a real comparison between Vietnam Draft Dodgers and those guys who come North nowdays.

Do you mean, these people who are heading north?  >:D

THEY ARE HEADING FOR CANADA NOW
Manitoba Herald, Canada

The flood of American liberals sneaking across the border into Canada has intensified in the past week, sparking calls for increased patrols to stop the illegal immigration. The actions of President Bush are prompting the exodus among left-leaning citizens who fear they'll soon be required to hunt, pray, and agree with Bill O'Reilly.

Canadian border farmers say it's not uncommon to see dozens of sociology professors, animal-rights activists and Unitarians crossing their fields at night.

"I went out to milk the cows the other day, and there was a Hollywood producer huddled in the barn," said Manitoba farmer Red Greenfield, whose acreage borders North Dakota. The producer was cold, exhausted and hungry. "He asked me if I could spare a latte and some free-range chicken. When I said I didn't have any, he left Didn't even get a chance to show him my screenplay, eh?"

In an effort to stop the illegal aliens, Greenfield erected higher fences, but the liberals scaled them. So he tried installing speakers that blare Rush Limbaugh across the fields. "Not real effective," he said. "The liberals still got through, and Rush annoyed the cows so much they wouldn't give milk."

Officials are particularly concerned about smugglers who meet liberals near the Canadian border, pack them into Volvo station wagons, drive them across the border and leave them to fend for themselves.

"A lot of these people are not prepared for rugged conditions," an Ontario border patrolman said. "I found one carload without a drop of drinking water. "They did have a nice little Napa Valley cabernet, though."

When liberals are caught, they're sent back across the border, often wailing loudly that they fear retribution from conservatives. Rumors have been circulating about the Bush administration establishing re-education camps in which liberals will be forced to drink domestic beer and watch NASCAR races.

In recent days, liberals have turned to sometimes-ingenious ways of crossing the border. Some have taken to posing as senior citizens on bus trips to buy cheap Canadian prescription drugs. After catching a half-dozen young vegans disguised in powdered wigs, Canadian immigration authorities began stopping buses and quizzing the supposed senior-citizen passengers on Perry Como and Rosemary Clooney hits to prove they were alive in the '50s.

"If they can't identify the accordion player on The Lawrence Welk Show, we get suspicious about their age," an official said.

Canadian citizens have complained that the illegal immigrants are creating an organic-broccoli shortage and renting all the good Susan Sarandon movies. "I feel sorry for American liberals, but the Canadian economy just can't support them," an Ottawa resident said. "How many art-history majors does one country need?"

In an effort to ease tensions between the United States and Canada, Vice President Dick Cheney met with the Canadian ambassador and pledged that the administration would take steps to reassure liberals, a source close to Cheney said. We're going to have some Peter, Paul & Mary concerts. And we might put some endangered species on postage stamps. The President is determined to reach out," he said.

;D
 
I have no problem with draft dodgers.  Conscription is one of the more evil things governments have done.

Volunteers who desert, however, are beneath contempt.  We should be deporting any foreign non-conscript deserters we find in Canada.
 
Any way you put it they are still dirty flower throwing hippies.The same people who write CBC and make me sick everytime they do a story on our forces.Glad they chose BC....dont think they would have "fit in" in newfoundland. ;D
 
  I wouldn't worry about it too much.  I mean, c'mon, you're expecting a draft dodger to SHOW UP?!?!?
 
As long as their ale is not on tap...


:rofl:

Had to do that....

Hey BTW, do any of the former soldiers of the Reich that have emigrated to Canada hold a reunion?

Ooo I know sounds offside, but I am serious?

dileas

tess
 
You know, it's funny Tess, but you reminded me of something.  Back in the late sixties my folks used to visit friends in Richmond BC. There was a kid down the block that I chummed with when we went to visit, and after a few visits I found out his dad had been in the Heer during WWII.  He emigrated to Canada in the early fifties I think, and married a Canadian girl.

I didn't get the sense that dad was some malevolent, sadistic automaton.  Aside fm the fact that he WAS a strict parent (no, not abusive, just strict) he seemed like any other "dad"--not withstanding a faint German accent. I was invited for supper one night, and the war came up.  This fellow talked very objectively about it, working hard to dispell some of the Hollywood crap about the German army. Even now I remember that I never had a sense that he was being an apologist, or trying to downplay the horrors of Nazism, he was just an ex soldier, talking about the army he'd served in. 

There were many German immigrants to Canada in the years after the war, and many must have been former soldiers. There can be no disputing the atrocities, the death camps, etc. etc. etc.  but I have never believed that the rank and file of the Wermacht were alot different from soldiers in any other army. They must feel the tug of comradship as much as any other soldier, not withstanding they were on the losing side. Who is to say that those ex-pat soldiers here in Canada shouldn't have reunions, or indeed perhaps that they don't?  Now you've got ME curious.  ???

And odd as it might sound, I'm more willing to accept a reunion of former "enemy" soldiers here in Canada than I would be toward this thing for draft-dodgers.  Sorry,  but if they were willing to pull the pin on the land of their birth in the face of trouble, I don't believe for a second they'll stick around when the going gets tough here. Running away from trouble is probably like committing any other crime: it's easier the second time.
 
personally, I know of a legion where a Luftwaffe pilot hangs out with his former enemies. They get drunk and tell great war stories.
 
As a Canadian who served in the American army and in Viet Nam I have no problems with Draft Dodgers. They, for whatever their reasons, made a decision and stuck to it. To turn your back on your country is no small thing. On the other hand, deserters get only my contempt. They swore an oath and they then broke that oath. Rather then serve in Viet Nam they ran, knowing that someone else would have to take their place. I can think of one CBC personality in the Toronto area that  served in the U.S. Army, was even promoted to Specialist 4 (Pay grade equivalent to  Cpl). When he received orders for Viet Nam he discovered he was "Anti War" and ran. Canada received him and rewarded him with a job in broadcasting! Draft Dodgers, OK at least they have the courage of their convictions. Deserters are cowards. If they did not want to serve in combat they could have refused and taken the consequences of their actions. Instead they ran.

OK that's my rant for the day!
 
draft dodgers and deserters, all the same to me. u run when your country calls on u? those people dont deserve any respect from anyone, the second you run is the second some other poor kid takes your place. You get called up, u suck it up, become a man and take one for the team.
 
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