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EV's, Gas/Oil, and The Future- another swerve split from- JT Hints Boosting Canada’s Military Spending

Most of which is innocuous and the intent is improved customer satisfaction and product quality.

I would much rather the CIA and CISIS have my data than the Chinese equivalent.

Also I only use Spotify now that News 95.7 is gone.



Maple flavored Cheeto ? lol
I agree.

I would just like the consumer to be aware of what data is being collected and to have the option to 'opt out' of this collection if they want to.
 
I agree.

I would just like the consumer to be aware of what data is being collected and to have the option to 'opt out' of this collection if they want to.

That's a fair compromise. I believe in freedom of choice.

My truck did ask for my consent when I manually enabled the feature. Whether it was already collecting or transmitting data in the background before that, who knows?

At the very least, I appreciate being given the option and the ability to decide for myself.
 
That's a fair compromise. I believe in freedom of choice.

My truck did ask for my consent when I manually enabled the feature. Whether it was already collecting or transmitting data in the background before that, who knows?

At the very least, I appreciate being given the option and the ability to decide for myself.
Pardon my ignorance but why in the first place? I have managed to drive well over one million miles in my various cars and trucks quite successfully with only annual trips to my mechanic and without any communication between the vehicle and Ford, Nissan or whereever. If someone wanted information on me they could ask and I could chose to answer or not. Its just a car why should I have to allow it to report on my actions?
 
Pardon my ignorance but why in the first place? I have managed to drive well over one million miles in my various cars and trucks quite successfully with only annual trips to my mechanic and without any communication between the vehicle and Ford, Nissan or whereever. If someone wanted information on me they could ask and I could chose to answer or not. Its just a car why should I have to allow it to report on my actions?

I'm no marketing or sales genius, but I can certainly see the value in understanding which features customers use and how they use them. That kind of information can be incredibly important for product development, helping companies improve existing features, prioritize future upgrades, and better meet customer needs.
 
Pardon my ignorance but why in the first place? I have managed to drive well over one million miles in my various cars and trucks quite successfully with only annual trips to my mechanic and without any communication between the vehicle and Ford, Nissan or whereever. If someone wanted information on me they could ask and I could chose to answer or not. Its just a car why should I have to allow it to report on my actions?
There is also the fact that some features are handy.

I have OnStar in my truck, that allows me to see where my truck is at all times, will automatically call emergency services if my airbags deploy and I don't respond to their call, allows me to lock/unlock the truck remotely, call emergency services if I see an accident, etc...

For the emergency services parts, I don't need cell service, it's all satellite based.

Stuff like that is why new cars and trucks talk to corporate HQ.
 
There is also the fact that some features are handy.

I have OnStar in my truck, that allows me to see where my truck is at all times, will automatically call emergency services if my airbags deploy and I don't respond to their call, allows me to lock/unlock the truck remotely, call emergency services if I see an accident, etc...

For the emergency services parts, I don't need cell service, it's all satellite based.

Stuff like that is why new cars and trucks talk to corporate HQ.
Do they, or do they talk to a service? If the manufacturer wants to know what options or features I use and what I think of them or their functionality, they could ask - they know who I am. Customer satisfaction surveys are a thing. I've never had a survey from a manufacturer about what I think about product X, even though my vehicles, tools, etc. are all registered for warrantee purposes.

I suppose if I travelled in remote areas or areas out of cel coverage, I might consider signing up for those features (Onstar, etc.). When I got ploughed into head-on, my truck kept saying 'collision detected' or some such thing, but apparently never told anyone. I was luckily able to call 911 myself (a whole different story). I have most of the 'driver assist' features turned off or way down. I'm not a Luddite, I just don't like the way they respond.
 
There is also the fact that some features are handy.

I have OnStar in my truck, that allows me to see where my truck is at all times, will automatically call emergency services if my airbags deploy and I don't respond to their call, allows me to lock/unlock the truck remotely, call emergency services if I see an accident, etc...

For the emergency services parts, I don't need cell service, it's all satellite based.

Stuff like that is why new cars and trucks talk to corporate HQ.
Sounds more like the way Congress runs. They take a great idea and pad it with features that benefit themselves (pork barreling) and then tell the voters that it was all necessary The emergency services I can easily accept but they don't have to come with the provision that the computer reports my speed and where I spend my Saturday night. Put succinctly: big daddy is watching and I, stupid me, am letting him
 
That's a fair compromise. I believe in freedom of choice.

My truck did ask for my consent when I manually enabled the feature. Whether it was already collecting or transmitting data in the background before that, who knows?

At the very least, I appreciate being given the option and the ability to decide for myself.
and what does the consumer get in return with sharing that data?
 
I will argue that non-EV vehicles peaked just after 2000 when you factor in price, reliability, features.

Full disclosure: I lease my vehicles.

Over the years, I've had a Cavalier, a Golf, a Ranger, four F-150s, and now an F-250. In all that time, I've never had a vehicle in the shop for a breakdown. Not once. I follow the manufacturer's maintenance schedule religiously and take care of my vehicles.

I'm convinced that a lot of people simply don't look after their equipment properly and then complain when it breaks down. Regular maintenance and basic care go a long way toward preventing most problems.
 
Full disclosure: I lease my vehicles.

Over the years, I've had a Cavalier, a Golf, a Ranger, four F-150s, and now an F-250. In all that time, I've never had a vehicle in the shop for a breakdown. Not once. I follow the manufacturer's maintenance schedule religiously and take care of my vehicles.

I'm convinced that a lot of people simply don't look after their equipment properly and then complain when it breaks down. Regular maintenance and basic care go a long way toward preventing most problems.
True and I can say that after following the above steps that in 2 of the 3 times my Chrysler vehicle's hit that 100k km mark the transmission died a quick, unexpected death.
The 3 Honda’s I’ve owned since then have not and 2 of the 3 of them have broke 200k km and have had no issues, so far. The one that doesn’t have 200k km on it is a 2008 and it’s got only 159k km on it and my son currently uses it as a bumper car for his daily commute to college……
 
I'm convinced that a lot of people simply don't look after their equipment properly and then complain when it breaks down. Regular maintenance and basic care go a long way toward preventing most problems.
I'd add to that by saying many people don't operate their vehicle wisely either. I.e. never consider engine/oil/transmission temps before hammering the throttle.

Some times you dont really have the option to warm everything before hitting the highway, but even then you can watch your tachometer, and ease yourself up to speed, rathern than red line it.

In older, less efficient, engines there was a bit more margin for rough use. With current environmental regulations everything modern has been tuned to near max to give people the power they want and the efficiency the government demands.
 
In older, less efficient, engines there was a bit more margin for rough use. With current environmental regulations everything modern has been tuned to near max to give people the power they want and the efficiency the government demands.

Thats the exact reason I went the way I did.


 
What is killing engines today is long service intervals and usage that the vehicle is not designed for. What Furniture said is very true, the short trips most urban people do are very hard on modern engines. A company must meet an "average fuel consumption" across it's fleet or face fines. So the companies try to eek out every last bit of efficiency they can. They reduce the casting thicknesses, use extremely thin oil, reduce bearing surfaces. Use "intelligent" oil and water pumps and other sorcery to get that .001% gain in fuel mileage. These new engines are balanced on a pin, any unforeseen usage or issue causes a cascading fault which the engine is not able to handle. Throw in marketing demands for more power out of less and less of an engine and it is a total mess. The problem is even worse with the small diesels used mainly in Europe.
 
I bought a new vehicle late last year and the owner’s manual says it only needs service every 10,000 km, which sounds excessive. I recently received an email my dealership advising I bring it in for service at 5,000 km, which is half the manufacturer’s recommendation. I don’t know if the dealership is just trying to suck more money out of my wallet, or if there is genuine advice for my vehicle to last longer.

If it wasn’t clear, I don’t trust dealership shops. They hose you all the time.
 
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