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Exploiting/Radicalizing Youth (merged thread)
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NLM is part of the growing neo-Satanist / nihilistic ecosystem. Ideologically they’ve emerged out of the ‘Order of Nine Angles’ ideological extremist movement. Basically they’re a ‘burn society down so that a superior form of humanity can emerge from the ashes’ movement. There are a lot of loosely affiliated groups along these lines and the names change a lot, but NLM and their ilk are pretty horrendous.
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This is a decent broad strokes summary of the relatively novel types of nihilistic extremism I was referring to in my last post:
It’s pretty “whoah, what the fuck?” and out there, but it’s real, and they way they prey on, corrupt, and radicalize actual kids is horrendous.
It’s pretty “whoah, what the fuck?” and out there, but it’s real, and they way they prey on, corrupt, and radicalize actual kids is horrendous.
And, timely to my last, the Mounties put out a public release on this today that’s making the rounds. Youth exploitation/child porn/radicalization/ideologically motivated violent extremism all in one gross package. I wouldn’t want to be the guy going through the computer on one of these…
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This from The Canadian Press ....
www.thecanadianpressnews.ca
... and this from the RCMP (also archived here) ...
Includes case studies of radicalization of the religious & non-religious type (and how some cases were dealt with) in the Five Eyes.
Five Eyes security agencies send up flare for help on preventing youth radicalization
OTTAWA - Security agencies from Canada and other members of the Five Eyes intelligence-sharing alliance are calling for a "whole-of-society response" to deal with the radicalization of young people lured
"Five-Eyes security and intelligence partners release report on young people and terrorism"
... with the report here (archived here) ...."Five-Eyes Insights – Young people and violent extremism: a call for collective action"
... and PDF of the report text also attached.Includes case studies of radicalization of the religious & non-religious type (and how some cases were dealt with) in the Five Eyes.
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This, from The Canadian Press:
www.thecanadianpressnews.ca
And where's the Online Harms Act bits dealing with child exploitation at right now?
www.ctvnews.ca
Online child exploitation spiked during lockdowns. Police worry it's here to stay
VANCOUVER - Online predators are becoming increasingly resourceful in trolling media platforms where children gravitate, prompting an explosion in police case loads, said an officer who works for the RCMP
Parties agree on the need to act on online harms, but time is running out for new law
Justice Minister Arif Virani is unapologetic about the money it would take to set up new regulators to tackle online harms under his proposed legislation.
www.ctvnews.ca
And coupled with this, today from CBC and focusing more on the radicalization side:This, from The Canadian Press:
And where's the Online Harms Act bits dealing with child exploitation at right now?Online child exploitation spiked during lockdowns. Police worry it's here to stay
VANCOUVER - Online predators are becoming increasingly resourceful in trolling media platforms where children gravitate, prompting an explosion in police case loads, said an officer who works for the RCMP
Parties agree on the need to act on online harms, but time is running out for new law
Justice Minister Arif Virani is unapologetic about the money it would take to set up new regulators to tackle online harms under his proposed legislation.
The online sexual exploitation / extortion and online ideological radicalization are NOT completely separate and distinct from each other. There’s a lot of this self-contained within kids and youths where they self-sustain through cycles of victims becoming victimizers.
Dr. Marc-André Argentina is probably the most knowledgeable guy for this stuff in Canada and one of the best in the world. A good primer from last May can be found here: When 'Community' Means Cruelty: An Introduction to the Criminal Networks and Behaviors of The Community, Comm, Com, and 764
An update from September including mention of a real-world murder is here: Nihilism and Misanthropy Unleashed: The 764 Network and No Lives Matter's NEW Ideological Manifesto and the Hässelby Attack
This is real stuff police are currently struggling to deal with. It’s this screwed up overlap between child sexual abuse, extortion, and actual ideologically motivated violent extremism. Argentino’s site has a lot more for anyone really curious.
To any parents out there: if your kid has Telegram messenger on any of their devices, HUGE red flag. Particularly if it’s coupled with the Discord app.
We had a prior thread covering some of this stuff back in the fall that would be a logical merge.
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Hunt. Them. Down.
Vigorously prosecute the bastards
Vigorously prosecute the bastards
With conventional CSAM, dirty old dude preys on kids, absolutely. A major problem with this new wave of abuse mixed with radicalization is that a lot of the bastards are 14 or 15 and have themselves been getting abused/extorted for years.
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Further to that, your post and subsequent discussion here:Talked me into it
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Newish (at least to me) and odd group out there, cranking out pams, it seems - more from New Jersey's Homeland Security folks ....
More here and also attached as PDF if link doesn't work.
More here and also attached as PDF if link doesn't work.
It’s the same stuff.
Just stumbled on this from a few days ago. A youth in Alberta has been charged with terrorism, promotion of hatred, and child sexual abuse material offences. This is related to the 764 network. I believe this is the first time Canada has charged terrorism for this stuff. The U.S. has recently started using the interesting term “nihilistic violent extremism”, which I think fits this general trend reasonably well.
I ven in the absence of details the combination of charges - terrorism, promotion of hatred, and CSAM stuff - paint a pretty horrific picture.
globalnews.ca
I ven in the absence of details the combination of charges - terrorism, promotion of hatred, and CSAM stuff - paint a pretty horrific picture.
Alberta teen already in custody accused of more terrorism, child porn offences | Globalnews.ca
An Alberta teen already in custody for fear they would harm others is accused of participating in terrorism, promoting hatred, uttering threats and possessing child pornography.
globalnews.ca
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The whole sexual thing is not surprising. Media in Europe have been reporting that Muslims have been raping women in Europe for years.Just stumbled on this from a few days ago. A youth in Alberta has been charged with terrorism, promotion of hatred, and child sexual abuse material offences. This is related to the 764 network. I believe this is the first time Canada has charged terrorism for this stuff. The U.S. has recently started using the interesting term “nihilistic violent extremism”, which I think fits this general trend reasonably well.
I ven in the absence of details the combination of charges - terrorism, promotion of hatred, and CSAM stuff - paint a pretty horrific picture.
Alberta teen already in custody accused of more terrorism, child porn offences | Globalnews.ca
An Alberta teen already in custody for fear they would harm others is accused of participating in terrorism, promoting hatred, uttering threats and possessing child pornography.
Rape is a weapon of war - lets not forget that.
This stuff has nothing to do with religion- see a few of my posts upthread for some summary on this particular form of youth radicalization. The CSAM is more about trophy hunting and extortion than anything else.
It takes a lot for me to look at something and say “that’s fucked up”, but…
ah, the benefits of AI. The technology has been unleashed and there is no clawing it back. There are a lot of benefits but they probably don't outweigh the harm that will be caused.Just stumbled on this from a few days ago. A youth in Alberta has been charged with terrorism, promotion of hatred, and child sexual abuse material offences. This is related to the 764 network. I believe this is the first time Canada has charged terrorism for this stuff. The U.S. has recently started using the interesting term “nihilistic violent extremism”, which I think fits this general trend reasonably well.
I ven in the absence of details the combination of charges - terrorism, promotion of hatred, and CSAM stuff - paint a pretty horrific picture.
Alberta teen already in custody accused of more terrorism, child porn offences | Globalnews.ca
An Alberta teen already in custody for fear they would harm others is accused of participating in terrorism, promoting hatred, uttering threats and possessing child pornography.
What AI are you talking about? This stuff is all real people, both perpetrators and victims, almost all very young, many minors.
use of AI to create the games and the characters personalities that are in them. It also identifies the vulnerable and is available 24/7 to talk with them. It is possible, in some cases, that the perpetrator is live on line but that would only be after the candidate has been hooked by the electronics. Even in this case, the teen in jail didn't come up with these thoughts on his own; they were planted and nurtured. In some respects he is as much a victim as the children he assaulted and no, I don't have any sympathy for him or his parents who should have been watching.
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