Feds cut pension payments to cons

[Steel Badger]

Sad, but true!    Once, long ago, I could spell, but that was before Mr. Monkhouse got ahold of me!

 

[Dennis Ruhl]

When the government is piddling $50 billion of borrowed money into the wind, they're worrying about saving $2 million.  If they want to get tough on crime, let's get tough on crime with more than symbolic crap.  I'm all about getting tough on crime.  I've been the victim of maybe a dozen robberies in the last dozen years.  Perhaps if there were enough resources to spend more than 15 minutes investigating each one, that might make a difference.  Perhaps if the courts actually penalized anyone the police caught, it might encourage more action.  I want beef and the government gives BS and a lot of people eat it up.

 

[Fishbone Jones]

When the government is piddling $50 billion of borrowed money into the wind, they're worrying about saving $2 million.  If they want to get tough on crime, let's get tough on crime with more than symbolic crap.  I'm all about getting tough on crime.  I've been the victim of maybe a dozen robberies in the last dozen years.  Perhaps if there were enough resources to spend more than 15 minutes investigating each one, that might make a difference.  Perhaps if the courts actually penalized anyone the police caught, it might encourage more action.  I want beef and the government gives BS and a lot of people eat it up.

Back that truck up. This isn't to do with fighting crime. It's about doing the right thing. The Conservatives are trying to reverse the revolving door justice and penalties systemic to the liberal and NDP. Everytime it goes to the Liebral dominated Senate, they attempt to water it down, if not downright stall it totally in the Upper House.

Reversing years of failed criminal social engineering, put in place by Trudeau and his socialist ilk will take time, but the Conservatives are trying.

You want more money for fighting crime and for more front line officers? Go talk to Toronto Police Chief Blair. He's the president of the Canadian Association of Chiefs of Police. When asked this week, in Committee Hearings, said, given the choice,  he would rather spend millions on the long gun registry than putting more police on the street to fight crime. There is where your problem lies. Not with the Conservatives that made him answer that question in public.

Stop being a victim of crime. 12 robberies in 12 years? Time to get a gun and learn how to use it

 

[Dennis Ruhl]

Stop being a victim of crime. 12 robberies in 12 years? Time to get a gun and learn how to use it

I'm armed for bear.  As I am not a bank, politician, or police officer I am unworthy of armed protection at work and don't want to go to jail myself.  Only one robbery was face to face, not involving me.  If my glass supplier had airmiles I'd be flying right now.

 

[Retired AF Guy]

Should we disenfranchise the child murdering perverts of the world? I don't think so. It's not exactly like they're going to influence any elections.

Don't be to sure about that. I live in Kingston and we have half-dozen federal prisons in the area and I'm willing to bet the majority of the prisoners in these fine establishments vote anything but Conservative. I'm also willing to bet that the only reason Peter Milliken is in office is because he got the prison vote. Yes, I know Kingston is only one seat, but there are a few other areas in Canada where there is a concentration of prisons and where every seat counts those prison votes could make a difference.

One thing I'd like to note is that it'll be another 2 years before Conrad Black is once again not barred from office on the basis of his fraud conviction.

That depends on what the U.S. Supreme Court rules later this month. Who knows?

 

[GAP]

I was under the impression a con's vote was counted in the riding he came from....no?

 

[gcclarke]

Don't be to sure about that. I live in Kingston and we have half-dozen federal prisons in the area and I'm willing to bet the majority of the prisoners in these fine establishments vote anything but Conservative. I'm also willing to bet that the only reason Peter Milliken is in office is because he got the prison vote. Yes, I know Kingston is only one seat, but there are a few other areas in Canada where there is a concentration of prisons and where every seat counts those prison votes could make a difference.

That depends on what the U.S. Supreme Court rules later this month. Who knows?

And how many of those votes were from Child molesting Murderers? Again, my point was that there may be some crimes  that are bad enough to "deserve" dsienfranchisement, but the vast majority of them do not. Voting for elected representation is one of the most fundamental rights there is. I personally would not suggest stripping this right from people expect for the most egregious of crimes. And, more importantly, the Supreme Court of Canada is of the opinion that there is no crime so ergegious that someone deserves to be stripped of this most fundamental of rights.

Edit: Oh yeah about the Conrad Black thing. Haven't been following it all that much. Even still, assuming he serves his entire term (unlikely, as he seems to be a model prisoner and will probably, IMNSHO, get paroled at least a bit early), he'll be out in mid 2014. Maybe they're be an election that year! ... I rather doubt he'd want to stoop to running for public office though.

 

[DexOlesa]

In the states felons are not allowed to vote while serving any sentence or any part of their probation. Many states allow them to re-register once their time has been served but several permanently ban you from voting again. That may be a bit harsh (especially for lesser felonies) however I think that if your crime was serious enough to warrant incarceration than you should lose the right to vote till after your sentence is served. I know that Canadian law disagrees with me. Many however do not.