Foreign Workers: Political/Labour effects (split from 2024 UK rioting thread)

[foresterab]

Summer jobs...

100% considered that...but in past bit summer job have been few and far between. At least in the towns I've been travelling through over the last few years consistently it's been a noticeable shift from locals to TFW...and only in the last bit are some of the locals getting hired again.

It's not international students involved as there's no schools around. But when you talk to local folks being laid off and replaced by TFW...its' a bit of a flash point locally. Now to be fair in some cases the differences between local hires - and having employees that know their rights and demand legal compensation like overtime - and TFW has put some places out of business due to increased costs/reduced profit margins. But that's not a bad thing if a business can only exist on illegal practices...especially if you want a long term community.

 

[dapaterson]

Summer jobs...

Actually, unemployment rates are seasonally adjusted to avoid those sort of cyclical spikes.

 

[Czech_pivo]

Actually, unemployment rates are seasonally adjusted to avoid those sort of cyclical spikes.

July will be interesting to see because that is when all the Educational Support Workers and such file/claim EI because they are only paid for the 10months of the school year, they are not paid July/August. This means that ALL of them (10k++ in Ontario alone) claim and go on EI.

 

[YZT580]

Assuming that the immigrant speaks English/french and is aware of such laws and is not being exploited by someone who comes from the same cultural group and keeps the new immigrant ignorant of the laws and in a state of semi-thrall.

crap, over. There are plenty of people, at least here in the Niagara region, that will call the labour board if a migrant worker so much as stubs his toe and doesn't get taken to emerg. They check on everything and anything. Not a bad thing though as housing and time off at the farms that took advantage of them has improved tremendously. I would guess that the few places I can see from here have spent several million for new housing. The trailers are gone

 

[Colin Parkinson]

crap, over. There are plenty of people, at least here in the Niagara region, that will call the labour board if a migrant worker so much as stubs his toe and doesn't get taken to emerg. They check on everything and anything. Not a bad thing though as housing and time off at the farms that took advantage of them has improved tremendously. I would guess that the few places I can see from here have spent several million for new housing. The trailers are gone

Still an issue out here, not as bad as it once was. Educated Indians are moving out from Surrey to get away from all the other Indians. They tell me they are fed up with the old school rural thinking there, and it worst than many Indian cities now.

 

[Blackadder1916]

AI is probably great, unless Skynet becomes self aware and wipes us out

Seriously is AI going to frame a house or install electric stuff or plumb a house?

That takes a real human. Good point Czech

Wait for it.

https://www.cbc.ca/news/business/artificial-intelligence-robotic-arms-construction-1.7414299

Attar said his company is developing AI for construction to master some of "the physical tasks that previously were really just the domain of a human."

Instead of creating single-function robots and pre-programming them to do highly specific tasks, Promise Robotics bought "off-the-shelf" robotic arms, began programming its own AI on construction skills and trained the arms to make parts of houses.

 

[Kirkhill]

Meanwhile in Sweden

"the number of people applying for asylum each year has plunged from 163,000 to roughly 9,000."

‘I did nothing wrong’: Sweden’s migration regime hardens, upending lives

Once a European nation receiving large numbers of refugees and migrants, Sweden completes a decade-long overhaul.

www.aljazeera.com

"In 2015, about 10,000 people per week were arriving in Sweden, most of them fleeing conflicts in Syria, Afghanistan and Iraq. Back then, it was home to one of the largest per-capita inflows in Europe. In the decade since, the number of people applying for asylum each year has plunged from 163,000 to roughly 9,000.

"This summer, three policy shifts converge.

"On June 12, as the EU’s new Migration and Asylum Pact came into force, Sweden chose the strictest implementation options available to any member state.

"On July 12, a new law takes effect, restricting all incoming asylum seekers to temporary residence permits only, eliminating the pathway to permanence that once defined Sweden’s approach to integration.

"And on July 13, the so-called “informer law” will require six state agencies, including the tax authority and social services, to report suspected undocumented people to police, shattering confidentiality norms."

And, from the article, in Europe more broadly

"On June 17, in the European Parliament, when a vote that aimed to speed up deportations passed, far-right members chanted “Send them back”.

"Swedish MEP Abir Al-Sahlani of the Centre Party rose to respond: “I’ve never felt unsafe in this room, until now.”

"Sweden’s Social Democrats abstained, the only centre-left delegation in Europe to do so, as 84 percent of their Social Democratic colleagues across the continent voted against it."

 

[YZT580]

Meanwhile in Sweden

"the number of people applying for asylum each year has plunged from 163,000 to roughly 9,000."

‘I did nothing wrong’: Sweden’s migration regime hardens, upending lives

Once a European nation receiving large numbers of refugees and migrants, Sweden completes a decade-long overhaul.

www.aljazeera.com

"In 2015, about 10,000 people per week were arriving in Sweden, most of them fleeing conflicts in Syria, Afghanistan and Iraq. Back then, it was home to one of the largest per-capita inflows in Europe. In the decade since, the number of people applying for asylum each year has plunged from 163,000 to roughly 9,000.

"This summer, three policy shifts converge.

"On June 12, as the EU’s new Migration and Asylum Pact came into force, Sweden chose the strictest implementation options available to any member state.

"On July 12, a new law takes effect, restricting all incoming asylum seekers to temporary residence permits only, eliminating the pathway to permanence that once defined Sweden’s approach to integration.

"And on July 13, the so-called “informer law” will require six state agencies, including the tax authority and social services, to report suspected undocumented people to police, shattering confidentiality norms."

And, from the article, in Europe more broadly

"On June 17, in the European Parliament, when a vote that aimed to speed up deportations passed, far-right members chanted “Send them back”.

"Swedish MEP Abir Al-Sahlani of the Centre Party rose to respond: “I’ve never felt unsafe in this room, until now.”

"Sweden’s Social Democrats abstained, the only centre-left delegation in Europe to do so, as 84 percent of their Social Democratic colleagues across the continent voted against it."

good for them