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French Immigration Gets Tougher

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I think this may just the beginning of an immigration backlash in Europe which may make it easier for the US to follow suit. Unchecked immigration is dangerous to the national identity of a nation and must be managed.

http://news.yahoo.com/s/ap/20071023/ap_on_re_eu/france_immigration

PARIS - French lawmakers adopted a hotly contested bill on Tuesday that would institute language exams and potential DNA testing for prospective immigrants, making it more difficult for families to join loved ones in France.

The DNA amendment, the most controversial aspect of the legislation, is meant to ensure that claims of family ties are true. It was added as a way to ensure that visa-seekers were not using fraudulent papers, common in some African countries.

While the expensive test is optional, critics fear it would be viewed as mandatory by those hoping to join family members in France.

The opposition Socialist Party has said it would take the issue before the Constitutional Council, which ensures that all laws conform with the constitution, in the hopes of getting the DNA amendment dumped. The move delays the bill's formal passage into law.

"This law is aimed at institutionalizing xenophobia," said Communist Party lawmaker Patrick Braouezec.

France's National Ethics Committee, a consultative body, has also said it has serious reservations about the DNA amendment for fear it could erode individual freedoms.

In a bid to appease critics, the DNA amendment was watered down to an 18-month experiment in several countries, with a genetic comparison only being made between a child seeking to join a mother already in France.

The legislation is a step toward fulfilling Conservative French President Nicolas Sarkozy's goal of increasing the proportion of skilled immigrants in France from 7 percent to 50 percent and generally tailoring the profile of the immigrant community.

In September, Sarkozy proposed immigration quotas by regions of the world and by occupation.

"I want us to be able to establish each year, after a debate in parliament, a quota with a ceiling for the number of foreigners we accept on our territory," he said at the time.

Immigration reform was a central theme of Sarkozy's presidential campaign.

"You are reimbursing your debt to the extreme right," Greens Party lawmaker Noel Mamere said Tuesday ahead of the vote, a reference to the far-right party which voted massively for Sarkozy at the expense of its own candidate, Jean-Marie Le Pen.

The rest of the bill requires that prospective immigrants take a language test and an exam on fundamental French values. It also sets a minimum income level for the relative in France to ensure the person arriving has enough financial support.

Twenty-one deputies of Sarkozy's Union for a Popular Movement abstained in the 282-235 vote in the lower house, the National Assembly, and four voted against the bill. The bill passed in the Senate 185-136.
 
Meh, that seems like a normal procedure for immigration. Now, will that stop all the Africans coming to Europe in home made boats... nope. I was born and raised in Europe and something that I can tell you know is that borders are impossible to control specially for Europe. In Spain I remember the government investing so much money in all these high tech surveillance equipment so they could intercept the boats bringing immigrants. They intercept some, others find the gaps and in the end the ones that are captured and deported perform the dangerous oddisey to Europe again. Personally, I think that as long as there are still economic and social disparities in the World migration will be present. And that has been pretty much human history in the last couple thousand years, always moving looking for better food sources, places to live and any mean to survive
 
Falange,
The Spanish gov't has invested much $$$ in Moroco & Tunesia in order to prevent immigrants from central Africa from even making it to the Med coast.

England, Ireland, Germany, Austria, France & Italy amongst others all have problems with migrant workers.  What's the solution?
 
- 'National Values'?  What is that?

- Solution would seem to be 'Gastarbeiten' - guest workers - but some guest workers stayed so long in Germany that they became defacto citizens anyway.  Plus, their children were born in Germany.  What then?



 
geo said:
Falange,
The Spanish gov't has invested much $$$ in Moroco & Tunesia in order to prevent immigrants from central Africa from even making it to the Med coast.

England, Ireland, Germany, Austria, France & Italy amongst others all have problems with migrant workers.  What's the solution?

The migrants from Central Africa usually do not stop in North Africa anymore, they just go waterbound up north from their respective countries. I know this has been specially the case with Senegalis and Nigerians. Many of them end up in drowining near the Canary Islands while others make it to their destination. The problem is that the ones that make it to Spain, only a few (which usually is a lot) stays there. The others usually just cross the Pyrenees and go to different places mainly France, the Benelux and the UK. Regarding England, most immigrants have been members of Commonwealth countries or other states that have special arrangements with the UK, so their citizens can find ways to go and live there. That is what happen with the Polish population in the UK which has sky rocketed due to the Pl Ascension to the EU in 2004; even the Polish presidential candidates went there this year to promote their campaigns.
 
Falange,
From what I had seen, a lot of central africans were storming the walls of Ceuta and Melilla.  If they can sneak undetected into either one of these two spanish cities, they can find ways to travel to Spain & into the EC without need of other passport or travel document.

Also - less of a chance to drown
 
Yes, Ceuta and Melilla used to be the number 1 pit, specially in the late 90s. However after some series of incidents between the Spanish authorities and assylum seekers this route has lost its priority for immigrants. At some point they even had el Tercio de Extranjeros (hmmmm I think they call it the Spanish Foreign Legion in English although there are not that many foreigners, just a few Latin American immigrants serving in its rank and file) doing  border patrol operations just to deter all the influx of people coming through the North African enclaves. What is happening now is people going seabound from all these parts of Central Africa. Right now the Canary Islands are having a really hard time dealing with all the people drowning, and arriving in this Autonomous Region. If you read El Pais or La Vanguardia, which are the prime newspapers of the country, everyday there will be an article regarding immigrants in boats in the middle of the Atlantic. I think the Spanish government started a new program last month in which they are gonna invest money in Senegal and other West African countries so people can find jobs there so they will be discouraged of coming to Es, and also they are doing this tv-ads in these countries just showing pics taken by the National Police and La Guardia Civil of bodies of immigrants that have drowned in their attempt to reach Europe to discourage them even more. Hopefully, other countries will pay more attention to what happens in Africa so the situation can be improved and consequently it will stop this exodous of people.
 
Falange said:
I think the Spanish government started a new program last month in which they are gonna invest money in Senegal and other West African countries so people can find jobs there so they will be discouraged of coming to Es, and also they are doing this tv-ads in these countries just showing pics taken by the National Police and La Guardia Civil of bodies of immigrants that have drowned in their attempt to reach Europe to discourage them even more. Hopefully, other countries will pay more attention to what happens in Africa so the situation can be improved and consequently it will stop this exodous of people. 

If their home country sucks bad enough, a few TV pictures arent going to stop them, especially if they dont believe the same thing could happen to them, or they are simply willing to take the risk....
 
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