FWSAR (CC130H, Buffalo, C27J, V22): Status & Possibilities

[OldSolduer]

My guess would be the MND, thru recommendations from the Airworthiness Advisory Board and/or Airworthiness Review Board. After several fall out of the sky because Orville Wright himself flew the prototype.

FTFY

 

[Good2Golf]

What version of the Chinook is this?
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Technically a ‘Voyageur’. Labs were always RCAF/CAF. Voyageurs from 1THP RCASC (1 Transport Helicopter Platoon, Royal Canadian Army Service Corps) the after unification transferred to 450 Squadron, then moved from 10 TAG (Tactical Air Group) to ATG (Air Transport Group) and rebuilt at Labradors. The tell of whether a Labrador was an original RCAF SAR Labrador or an Army Voyageur converted to Labrador(ish) configuration is the additional forward *upper cockpit windows on a Voyageur/Labrador(A) that make it look like eyes above the smiling banana. Original Labradors don’t have the *upper glass that a pilot would look out of to use as a hover reference during hoisting (I know…don’t ask).

The younger smaller/slower/weaker brother version?

Touché @Eye In The Sky

 

[Good2Golf]

Original Labrador:

See no glass either side of the radome.

CH-113A Voyageur

Glass on either side of the radome.

 

[KevinB]

Original Labrador:
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See no glass either side of the radome.

CH-113A Voyageur
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Glass on either side of the radome.

I thought closing your eyes and using the force was a valid COA for you

 

[Eye In The Sky]

In case anyone wants a giggle or two, here's the info-machine's version ...

Government of Canada provides an update on the operationalization of the CC-295 Kingfisher - Canada.ca

A modern and capable military is critical to Canada’s domestic security and our contribution on the world stage. This includes our role in domestic maritime search and rescue.

www.canada.ca

Backgrounder – Delay in Initial Operational Capability (IOC) of the CC-295 Kingfisher - Canada.ca

A modern and capable military is critical to Canada’s domestic security and our contribution on the world stage. This includes our role in domestic search and rescue (SAR).

www.canada.ca

Also archived here and here in case the links don't work.

I was wondering what these guys were doing lately....nice work!

 

[Humphrey Bogart]

This just keeps getting more depressing. The funny thing is it never gets better only worse, all the trend lines are there in plain view.

 

[Eye In The Sky]

This just keeps getting more depressing. The funny thing is it never gets better only worse, all the trend lines are there in plain view.

 

[Eye In The Sky]

No? I thought it was a good one...but it's been a long day...

 

[Blackadder1916]

What version of the Chinook is this?
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Already identified as a Voyager. This particular airframe was the only one of the Army's Voyagers that wasn't changed to a Labrador.

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Boeing Vertol CH-113A Voyageur Helicopter (Serial No. 10409), later (Serial No. 11309), Canadian Army, Rockcliffe, Ontario, ca 1965. This Voyageur was taken on strength in 1964 and was flown by No. 1 Transport Helicopter Platoon, a component of the Canadian Army and part of the Royal Canadian Army Service Corps, based at CJATC, Rivers, Manitoba. It was destroyed in a crash fter control was lost when entering a fog bank at Kinchloe AFB, Michigan, while on a ferry flight from Rivers, Manitoba to the unit's new base at St. Hubert, Quebec, on 14 August 1966.

 

[SupersonicMax]

Who makes the final decision to retire a fleet, in this case, the buff?

Comd RCAF for RCAF fleets. The AAB only manages the airworthiness aspects, not the readiness/capability aspect.

 

[Eye In The Sky]

Comd RCAF for RCAF fleets. The AAB only manages the airworthiness aspects, not the readiness/capability aspect.

I honestly thought it would be higher than him/her.

 

[Quirky]

BZ to the crews and support pers who are 'making it happen'.

Just to add to this, what's the RCAFs plan for housing in Comox? There is almost nothing available for a regular APS, nevermind an extra xx amount of people for SAR coverage.

 

[Eagle_Eye_View]

Just to add to this, what's the RCAFs plan for housing in Comox? There is almost nothing available for a regular APS, nevermind an extra xx amount of people for SAR coverage.

Yes housing is a big issue here. All the barracks and single quarters are full. Weeks ago the WComd mentioned they’re looking at renting hotels to house our members. I don’t know if it materialized.

 

[Quirky]

Yes housing is a big issue here. All the barracks and single quarters are full. Weeks ago the WComd mentioned they’re looking at renting hotels to house our members. I don’t know if it materialized.

Besides the Old House, is there anything else available with kitchens?

 

[Humphrey Bogart]

Yes housing is a big issue here. All the barracks and single quarters are full. Weeks ago the WComd mentioned they’re looking at renting hotels to house our members. I don’t know if it materialized.

I have a solution....

I mean it's BC, half the population already lives in vans anyways. The CAF may as well just set up a van park, it'll be trendy with the youths!

 

[kev994]

I have a solution....

I mean it's BC, half the population already lives in vans anyways. The CAF may as well just set up a van park, it'll be trendy with the youths!

I heard rumours that people were trying to get a camping spot without the raffle because they needed a place to live. Apparently the camping raffle is serious business in Comox.

 

[Colin Parkinson]

I have heard elsewhere that one of the Kingfishers issues is the dummies they toss out to imitate a SAR tech jumping keeps hitting the tail? If true, one would have thought that they would have tested that during the trials. I just wish the Spartan was being supported by Airbus. My gut feeling in all of this is wrong airframe and right company.

 

[daftandbarmy]

I have heard elsewhere that one of the Kingfishers issues is the dummies they toss out to imitate a SAR tech jumping keeps hitting the tail? If true, one would have thought that they would have tested that during the trials. I just wish the Spartan was being supported by Airbus. My gut feeling in all of this is wrong airframe and right company.

SAR Techs be like...

 

[Colin Parkinson]

Likely we can solve the issue if we only hire dwarfs or Hobbits for the job.

 

[Humphrey Bogart]

I have heard elsewhere that one of the Kingfishers issues is the dummies they toss out to imitate a SAR tech jumping keeps hitting the tail? If true, one would have thought that they would have tested that during the trials. I just wish the Spartan was being supported by Airbus. My gut feeling in all of this is wrong airframe and right company.

You forgot.... just like boots, the only testing required was could it be procured from Québec