Global Warming/Climate Change Super Thread

[Kirkhill]

More good stuff from Rex

Earlier this month, Premier Moe introduced the Saskatchewan first act, which declares that the province has “exclusive legislative jurisdiction under the Constitution of Canada in relation to” a number of areas, such as the “exploration for non-renewable natural resources.” Premier Smith has promised to introduce similar legislation.

Both premiers have uttered a very interesting truth: that the federal government is a partner, not a ruler, in Confederation.

Rex Murphy: Western premiers finally push back against Trudeau's devastating agenda

It is so good, finally, to see a real resistance to the green agenda

nationalpost.com

 

[daftandbarmy]

Whoa...

Mapped: Carbon Dioxide Emissions Around the World

This graphic maps out carbon emissions around the world and where they come from, using data from the European Commission.

www.visualcapitalist.com

 

[YZT580]

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Mapped: Carbon Dioxide Emissions Around the World

This graphic maps out carbon emissions around the world and where they come from, using data from the European Commission.

www.visualcapitalist.com

notice how dull Canada is. So why are we bankrupting ourselves for a trace gas that even if we eliminated it totally would have exactly zero effect on the global balance. Just so we can say "we're back?

 

[Kirkhill]

I see Hwy 2 (Calgary - Red Deer - Edmonton). I see the Lower Mainland. I see the St Lawrence Valley.

Strangely I have difficulty discerning the Oil Sands.

 

[Quirky]

notice how dull Canada is. So why are we bankrupting ourselves for a trace gas that even if we eliminated it totally would have exactly zero effect on the global balance. Just so we can say "we're back?

Governments need to keep people afraid of something, so the climate emergency was created because only the Liberals are capable of solving it through a transfer of wealth scheme known as the carbon tax. Stupid people will keep voting Liberal because they believe Canada needs to dO tHeIR PaRt, even if it means freezing to death in the winter by higher energy costs.

I don’t believe for a second that increasing gas or energy prices through taxes will make any significant impact on carbon emissions, but stupid people do. While I agree that transition to greener energy needs to happen, it shouldn’t be at the cost of people struggling to pay the bills. We can virtue signal to the rest of the world that we have an aggressive emissions control policy and they just all laugh at us, while we self inflict a lower quality of life. Meanwhile the worlds biggest emitters fire up new coal plants and just generally DGAF.

 

[Good2Golf]

We can virtue signal lie to the rest of the world that we have an aggressive emissions control policy and they just all laugh at us, while we self inflict a lower quality of life. Meanwhile the worlds biggest emitters fire up new coal plants in part powered by coal torn out of the Rockies in BC and exported quietly for great profit while Canada pretends that doesn’t result in any CO2 release and just generally DGAF.

FTFY Quirky

 

[kev994]

Governments need to keep people afraid of something, so the climate emergency was created because only the Liberals are capable of solving it through a transfer of wealth scheme known as the carbon tax. Stupid people will keep voting Liberal because they believe Canada needs to dO tHeIR PaRt, even if it means freezing to death in the winter by higher energy costs.

I don’t believe for a second that increasing gas or energy prices through taxes will make any significant impact on carbon emissions, but stupid people do. While I agree that transition to greener energy needs to happen, it shouldn’t be at the cost of people struggling to pay the bills. We can virtue signal to the rest of the world that we have an aggressive emissions control policy and they just all laugh at us, while we self inflict a lower quality of life. Meanwhile the worlds biggest emitters fire up new coal plants and just generally DGAF.

There’s so much logic here that my little brain doesn’t know where to begin. Have you considered that perhaps you’ve been manipulated into believing this by people with ulterior motives?

 

[Lumber]

Governments need to keep people afraid of something, so the climate emergency was created because only the Liberals are capable of solving it through a transfer of wealth scheme known as the carbon tax. Stupid people will keep voting Liberal because they believe Canada needs to dO tHeIR PaRt, even if it means freezing to death in the winter by higher energy costs.

I don’t believe for a second that increasing gas or energy prices through taxes will make any significant impact on carbon emissions, but stupid people do. While I agree that transition to greener energy needs to happen, it shouldn’t be at the cost of people struggling to pay the bills. We can virtue signal to the rest of the world that we have an aggressive emissions control policy and they just all laugh at us, while we self inflict a lower quality of life. Meanwhile the worlds biggest emitters fire up new coal plants and just generally DGAF.

Wait, if the climate emergency was created by the Liberals, why do we need to transition to greener energy?

If the Liberals created the climate emergency, and the climate emergency has been talked about for decades, does that mean the Liberals have been running an decades long conspiracy, building the framework slowly in order to ensure "a transfer of wealth"? I think you give the Liberal Part of Canada FAR too much credit; they are not that smart or organized to conduct such a long term operation, and keep it quiet throughout.

 

[OldSolduer]

It’s -15 here with a biting wind. It’s not warm here.

 

[Rifleman62]

Think of all the tax money that is flowing into the Trudeau gov't coffers so it can be blown out the with abandon. In 2019 Canada was 1.5% of the global emissions. We get to net zero in 2030 (after destroying the economy, etc, etc), so what? We share the border with the world's second highest emitter (who has 10 times our population) , let alone China, India.

Global greenhouse gas emissions - Canada.ca

Global Greenhouse Gas Emissions

www.canada.ca

In 2019, Canada ranked as the 10th GHG emitting country/region. Canada's share of global emissions decreased from 1.8% in 2005 to 1.5% in 2019. Like that of other economically developed countries, Canada’s share is anticipated to continue to decline due to the expected rapid increase in emissions from economically developing and emerging countries, particularly China (+71.7% from 2005 to 2019), India (+71.3%), Brazil (+16.2%), and Indonesia (+37.9%).

 

[Quirky]

If the Liberals created the climate emergency, and the climate emergency has been talked about for decades, does that mean the Liberals have been running an decades long conspiracy, building the framework slowly in order to ensure "a transfer of wealth"? I think you give the Liberal Part of Canada FAR too much credit; they are not that smart or organized to conduct such a long term operation, and keep it quiet throughout.

Liberals love taxing people to death in any way they can. This tax to reduce emissions is no different.

 

[Rifleman62]

Trudeau giving Quebec a special deal on carbon tax

The Canadian Taxpayers Federation is highlighting a fundamental unfairness about the federal carbon tax: Prime Minister Justin Trudeau is requiring taxpayers in other provinces to pay a higher carbon tax than in Quebec.

www.taxpayer.com

Trudeau giving Quebec a special deal on carbon tax​

Author: Franco Terrazzano 2022/11/29
Federal News Release
OTTAWA, ON: The Canadian Taxpayers Federation is highlighting a fundamental unfairness about the federal carbon tax: Prime Minister Justin Trudeau is requiring taxpayers in other provinces to pay a higher carbon tax than in Quebec.

“Trudeau is giving Quebec a special deal on carbon taxes and giving other Canadians higher gas prices and heating bills,” said Franco Terrazzano, Federal Director of the CTF. “The solution is simple: Trudeau should scrap his carbon tax and lower gas prices and home heating bills across Canada.”

British Columbia, Alberta, Saskatchewan, Manitoba, Ontario, New Brunswick, Nova Scotia, Prince Edward Island and Newfoundland and Labrador are all required to raise the carbon tax to 14 cents per litre of gas next year and 37 cents per litre of gas by 2030.

“The federal government is committed to ensuring that carbon pricing is in place across Canada at a similar level of stringency,” according to the government’s backgrounder.

Quebec’s provincial cap and trade carbon tax currently costs about nine cents per litre of gas and must stay above 4.8 cents per litre next year. Quebec’s provincial carbon tax is set to rise to 23 cents per litre of gas by 2030, according to LaPresse.

“Trudeau’s special deal for Quebec shows the carbon tax was always about politics, not the environment,” said Terrazzano.

 

[suffolkowner]

Trudeau giving Quebec a special deal on carbon tax

The Canadian Taxpayers Federation is highlighting a fundamental unfairness about the federal carbon tax: Prime Minister Justin Trudeau is requiring taxpayers in other provinces to pay a higher carbon tax than in Quebec.

www.taxpayer.com

Trudeau giving Quebec a special deal on carbon tax​

Author: Franco Terrazzano 2022/11/29
Federal News Release
OTTAWA, ON: The Canadian Taxpayers Federation is highlighting a fundamental unfairness about the federal carbon tax: Prime Minister Justin Trudeau is requiring taxpayers in other provinces to pay a higher carbon tax than in Quebec.

“Trudeau is giving Quebec a special deal on carbon taxes and giving other Canadians higher gas prices and heating bills,” said Franco Terrazzano, Federal Director of the CTF. “The solution is simple: Trudeau should scrap his carbon tax and lower gas prices and home heating bills across Canada.”

British Columbia, Alberta, Saskatchewan, Manitoba, Ontario, New Brunswick, Nova Scotia, Prince Edward Island and Newfoundland and Labrador are all required to raise the carbon tax to 14 cents per litre of gas next year and 37 cents per litre of gas by 2030.

“The federal government is committed to ensuring that carbon pricing is in place across Canada at a similar level of stringency,” according to the government’s backgrounder.

Quebec’s provincial cap and trade carbon tax currently costs about nine cents per litre of gas and must stay above 4.8 cents per litre next year. Quebec’s provincial carbon tax is set to rise to 23 cents per litre of gas by 2030, according to LaPresse.

“Trudeau’s special deal for Quebec shows the carbon tax was always about politics, not the environment,” said Terrazzano.

so Quebec is getting some extra credit for the cap and trade program, maybe as we dont know what the cap and trade will be at in 2030 but it only needs to be 14 cents a litre when it is 9 cents now

 

[kev994]

Think of all the tax money that is flowing into the Trudeau gov't coffers so it can be blown out the with abandon. In 2019 Canada was 1.5% of the global emissions. We get to net zero in 2030 (after destroying the economy, etc, etc), so what? We share the border with the world's second highest emitter (who has 10 times our population) , let alone China, India.

Global greenhouse gas emissions - Canada.ca

Global Greenhouse Gas Emissions

www.canada.ca

In 2019, Canada ranked as the 10th GHG emitting country/region. Canada's share of global emissions decreased from 1.8% in 2005 to 1.5% in 2019. Like that of other economically developed countries, Canada’s share is anticipated to continue to decline due to the expected rapid increase in emissions from economically developing and emerging countries, particularly China (+71.7% from 2005 to 2019), India (+71.3%), Brazil (+16.2%), and Indonesia (+37.9%).

From the same source:

• In 2019, Canada was the highest GHG emitting country per capita among the top 10 emitting countries with 19.6 t CO2 eq

 

[suffolkowner]

Realistically I think we should be aiming for net zero by 2100, maybe thats too late maybe market forces dictate we get there earlier. Nothing is getting done by 2030

 

[Bruce Monkhouse]

From the same source:

• In 2019, Canada was the highest GHG emitting country per capita among the top 10 emitting countries with 19.6 t CO2 eq

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Because freezing to death probably really sucks....

 

[TacticalTea]

Trudeau giving Quebec a special deal on carbon tax

The Canadian Taxpayers Federation is highlighting a fundamental unfairness about the federal carbon tax: Prime Minister Justin Trudeau is requiring taxpayers in other provinces to pay a higher carbon tax than in Quebec.

www.taxpayer.com

Trudeau giving Quebec a special deal on carbon tax​

Author: Franco Terrazzano 2022/11/29
Federal News Release
OTTAWA, ON: The Canadian Taxpayers Federation is highlighting a fundamental unfairness about the federal carbon tax: Prime Minister Justin Trudeau is requiring taxpayers in other provinces to pay a higher carbon tax than in Quebec.

“Trudeau is giving Quebec a special deal on carbon taxes and giving other Canadians higher gas prices and heating bills,” said Franco Terrazzano, Federal Director of the CTF. “The solution is simple: Trudeau should scrap his carbon tax and lower gas prices and home heating bills across Canada.”

British Columbia, Alberta, Saskatchewan, Manitoba, Ontario, New Brunswick, Nova Scotia, Prince Edward Island and Newfoundland and Labrador are all required to raise the carbon tax to 14 cents per litre of gas next year and 37 cents per litre of gas by 2030.

“The federal government is committed to ensuring that carbon pricing is in place across Canada at a similar level of stringency,” according to the government’s backgrounder.

Quebec’s provincial cap and trade carbon tax currently costs about nine cents per litre of gas and must stay above 4.8 cents per litre next year. Quebec’s provincial carbon tax is set to rise to 23 cents per litre of gas by 2030, according to LaPresse.

“Trudeau’s special deal for Quebec shows the carbon tax was always about politics, not the environment,” said Terrazzano.

Would apply to Ontario too if Doug Ford hadn't scrapped it.

Nothing to do with Quebec or any "special treatment", this is just more lowly hate-based populist politics.

"Implement your own or follow the federal model" has always been the deal for the carbon tax.

 

[Brad Sallows]

I suppose it's mainly about revenue, not emission control. Finding new revenues seems to preoccupy most governments these days. Energy taxes. Real estate taxes. New regional sales taxes. Deprecating cash in order to ensure transactions do not go unreported (sales taxes, income taxes). At least with some carbon taxes a notional attempt has been made at making them revenue-neutral overall, but in effect that amounts to a particular tax in order to fund individual transfers.

 

[Dana381]

High gas and heating prices will cause people and companies to be financially strapped and not afford expensive new technology to emit less emissions. When trucking companies don't make money they hang on to trucks for longer, older less clean burning trucks. When factories struggle they don't invest in scrubbing tech and research in ways to operate cleaner. People will not replace older furnaces and air conditioners when they don't know where their gas bill money will come from.

Laws demanding better emission technology will get ignored and cheated because life will be unaffordable otherwise. People will start burning wood, coal, garbage and whatever they can get to keep warm. This is especially true in poorer countries. How does this help the environment at all.

The liberal mindset is always toward more government to solve every problem. A lot of problems need less government and less taxes. This is one of those problems. Make environmentally friendly choices the cheapest option and People will choose it. Lots of people have updated their home hvac/insulation through the various incentive programs that have been offered.

 

[RangerRay]

From the same source:

• In 2019, Canada was the highest GHG emitting country per capita among the top 10 emitting countries with 19.6 t CO2 eq

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Well, we do live in a large, sparsely populated, and cold country…it’s only natural we would emit more carbon emissions than many other countries.