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Government hints at boosting Canada’s military spending

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I have long said that you could fund the CAF to 4 percent of GDP, but we would still lag behind in NATO and be much the same where we are.

It's never the money, it's politics. It's procedures. It's the pork-barreling in our defence spending that makes us a paper tiger in NATO.

My only hope in all of this for the CAF and the GoC, whatever the political stripe that may be, is that it will rouse them out of the "Peace Dividend" slumber. The world has been unstable since 1945. We have used geography, proximity, and association as a Defence Policy ever since. ICBMs don't care how close to the U.S. or how far from Russia/China we are.

Don't give us a dime more, but let us spend money on defence like it matters. The fact we follow the same rules for purchasing a fighter aircraft as we do for buying office furniture for a Service Canada office is disgraceful. Don't treat defense procurement as a stimulus package for Canadian Industry. There I said it.

We spend so much money, time, and effort trying to get that money to stay in Canada; be it by awarding contracts to companies with no capability to produce items without first "retooling" and"developing the production lines", or by hamstringing perfectly competent and competitive bidders by forcing the project to be made in St. Margaret de Poutain de Champignon, QC because the ruling government either lost the seat in the election, or won it with promises.

We spend so much money and staff hours jumping through TBS regulations that are great for other departments, but are terrible for defence procurement. Some items you have to sole source, because there are technologies and capabilities no one else makes. By doing the bid process, you get companies clamoring for a project they can't deliver on, but because they tick the bright boxes on the score sheet....

I truly and honestly belief we need to split from PSPC and legislate that its not beholden to TBS, only to the PBO/PCO. The guiding principles of this new Defence Procurement department should be "Off the shelf, from somewhere else" if there isn't an industry in Canada.

BOOTFORGEN has demonstrated how well we do when we are able to actually get what we need, instead of lining the pockets of a Canadian company that got lucky.

That, but with tanks, fighters, ships, weapons systems....
 
Paul Wells has thoughts.

Sounds about right.

I think at this point, Trudeau is beginning to appreciate a few folks near to him pointing out that he’s heading towards a peRfect storm….R…..ecession. It’s coming….late in 2024, say Q3 and will be moderate in scale (notably less than 2008), or it will be pushed off into early-2025 and be significantly worse. I suspect that compared to other nations that will try to meaningfully address the developing recession, Trudeau (and Canada along with him in tow) will follow the lead of Nero, and pull out a spiffy red fiddle and play some jaunty tunes as Canadians see themselves approaching a much bleaker future.
 
Sounds about right.

I think at this point, Trudeau is beginning to appreciate a few folks near to him pointing out that he’s heading towards a peRfect storm….R…..ecession. It’s coming….late in 2024, say Q3 and will be moderate in scale (notably less than 2008), or it will be pushed off into early-2025 and be significantly worse. I suspect that compared to other nations that will try to meaningfully address the developing recession, Trudeau (and Canada along with him in tow) will follow the lead of Nero, and pull out a spiffy red fiddle and play some jaunty tunes as Canadians see themselves approaching a much bleaker future.

Meanwhile, at the Liberal party fundraiser ;)

Hungry Dan Aykroyd GIF by Saturday Night Live
 
We've had this thread for over a year now and I haven't seen any concrete evidence that Trudeau is boosting military spending. Every time I click on this thread I'm dissapointed.

Perhaps we should use truth in advertising principles and rename the thread "Justin Trudeau still has done nothing about boosting Canada's military spending."

:unsure:

In fairness the thread is titled « Justin Trudeau Hints at Boosting Defence Spending »

I never really believed it, and sadly, it will likely continue this way regardless of who is in power.
 
Ms Anand is now ordering fed depts to find $15B cuts by Oct

In an earlier article it mentioned that DND and Health Canada would not face cuts - this possibly could mean no increases either.

For the PS, this could mean job cuts reminiscent of Paul Martin when he was the Min of Fin.
More service fees or increases in existing fees.

Watch and shoot.
 
Ms Anand is now ordering fed depts to find $15B cuts by Oct

In an earlier article it mentioned that DND and Health Canada would not face cuts - this possibly could mean no increases either.

For the PS, this could mean job cuts reminiscent of Paul Martin when he was the Min of Fin.
More service fees or increases in existing fees.

Watch and shoot.
Could start with the….ummm…$15B that Trudeau said wasn’t worth CRA recovering.

The ~30% increase in PS since Trudeau came to power has proven to be an incredibly poor return on investment for government productivity. Perhaps good for securing several 100,000 votes for the LPC in the next election, but very little in the way of government productivity.
 
Maybe she's being hidden there to escape the fallout of a government that seems to be in decline. Out of Sight and out of mind until Trudeau and his more visible team are gone, so she can step in a lead the part to better fortunes after they are ousted.
Some more evidence that Anand's best interests may not have been in the hearts of the Shuffle Demons :)
How to make friends among cabinet colleagues? Not? We'll see ... 🍿
 
Could start with the….ummm…$15B that Trudeau said wasn’t worth CRA recovering.

The ~30% increase in PS since Trudeau came to power has proven to be an incredibly poor return on investment for government productivity. Perhaps good for securing several 100,000 votes for the LPC in the next election, but very little in the way of government productivity.
Another place to start would be culling a couple thousand EXs…
 
Ms Anand is now ordering fed depts to find $15B cuts by Oct

In an earlier article it mentioned that DND and Health Canada would not face cuts - this possibly could mean no increases either.

For the PS, this could mean job cuts reminiscent of Paul Martin when he was the Min of Fin.
More service fees or increases in existing fees.

Watch and shoot.
The reductions were announced in Budget 2023; the $15B is a multi year total.

This is the operationalization of the previously announced plan. If it's a surprise to anyone that just means they weren't paying attention.
 
The reductions were announced in Budget 2023; the $15B is a multi year total.

This is the operationalization of the previously announced plan. If it's a surprise to anyone that just means they weren't paying attention.
No disputing that, but one would also be reasonably excused for wondering why Finance didn’t come up with a more detailed distribution of where the $15B would come from. This portrayal that it’s up to TB Pres. to get the various departments and agencies to identify from where the savings totaling the $15B would come, is the indicator of the Good Cop / Bad Cop game and who remains the Preferati…hint: NOT Anand.
 
That the media have not said "Department X must find $Y" does not mean such direction has not been issued.
 
Some more evidence that Anand's best interests may not have been in the hearts of the Shuffle Demons :)
How to make friends among cabinet colleagues? Not? We'll see ... 🍿

With Canadian political parties there are at least two potential power bases: the parliamentary one and the extra-parliamentary one. With the Liberals there appears to be a third one based on a split in the extra-parliamentary one. No party exploits the parliamentary one. They seem to want to ensure that the trained seals don't get ideas. In my view that leaves the parliamentary party as an unexploited opportunity for someone.

At the same time we are confronted with conservative Liberals and social democrat Liberals but more importantly, we have authoritarian Liberals (any oxymoron if ever there was one).

All of that tends to cloud my crystal ball and makes it difficult to figure out what Anand's actual prospects are. I wonder if anybody in the Liberals is sure either.
 
The reductions were announced in Budget 2023; the $15B is a multi year total.

This is the operationalization of the previously announced plan. If it's a surprise to anyone that just means they weren't paying attention.
DND could look at funding from the budget that won't be realistically spent in this fiscal year and give that up. This would allow them to meet the new target and preserve operational and procurement spending that will succeed. They may not be allowed to , as it seems that the unspendable money that gets returned to General Revenue every year likley makes up a good percent of Liberal "magic money" to spend on politically valuable things that suddenly pop up.
 
As I understand, it's not just money - it's also specific reductions in travel and in professional services contracts.
 
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