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Government hints at boosting Canada’s military spending

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I have long said that you could fund the CAF to 4 percent of GDP, but we would still lag behind in NATO and be much the same where we are.

It's never the money, it's politics. It's procedures. It's the pork-barreling in our defence spending that makes us a paper tiger in NATO.

My only hope in all of this for the CAF and the GoC, whatever the political stripe that may be, is that it will rouse them out of the "Peace Dividend" slumber. The world has been unstable since 1945. We have used geography, proximity, and association as a Defence Policy ever since. ICBMs don't care how close to the U.S. or how far from Russia/China we are.

Don't give us a dime more, but let us spend money on defence like it matters. The fact we follow the same rules for purchasing a fighter aircraft as we do for buying office furniture for a Service Canada office is disgraceful. Don't treat defense procurement as a stimulus package for Canadian Industry. There I said it.

We spend so much money, time, and effort trying to get that money to stay in Canada; be it by awarding contracts to companies with no capability to produce items without first "retooling" and"developing the production lines", or by hamstringing perfectly competent and competitive bidders by forcing the project to be made in St. Margaret de Poutain de Champignon, QC because the ruling government either lost the seat in the election, or won it with promises.

We spend so much money and staff hours jumping through TBS regulations that are great for other departments, but are terrible for defence procurement. Some items you have to sole source, because there are technologies and capabilities no one else makes. By doing the bid process, you get companies clamoring for a project they can't deliver on, but because they tick the bright boxes on the score sheet....

I truly and honestly belief we need to split from PSPC and legislate that its not beholden to TBS, only to the PBO/PCO. The guiding principles of this new Defence Procurement department should be "Off the shelf, from somewhere else" if there isn't an industry in Canada.

BOOTFORGEN has demonstrated how well we do when we are able to actually get what we need, instead of lining the pockets of a Canadian company that got lucky.

That, but with tanks, fighters, ships, weapons systems....
 
So I went looking a bit and came across this statement which many of you have referenced around here:

Eyre blamed the military’s sexual misconduct crisis and the COVID-19 pandemic for the exodus.
“We need our mid-level leaders to dig deep and do this for the institution, to put service before self, not to retreat into retirement, but to advance forward and face the challenges head-on,” Eyre stated.


And, just... I mean... wow... ''Am I so out of touch? No. It's the children who are wrong''
 
I just realized something... Governments in Canada have been working in secret to ensure the CAF upholds one of it's strongest traditions.

Canada has entered each World War woefully understaffed, and underequipped. As we sit on the brink of WWIII the government has worked tirelessly to set us up to maintain that proud tradition.

I guess I should write a thank you note to my MP.
 
I broadly agree with the idea but I find the "insurance" analogy too simplistic. Our issues aren't just limited to funding DND/CAF, but what we do with the money already given.


Yes, but the tech level was very different. Today's combat systems are so advanced that we can't roll out aircraft, ships, and tanks at the same rates as we did in WWII.
And the bureaucracy is as well
 
I just realized something... Governments in Canada have been working in secret to ensure the CAF upholds one of it's strongest traditions.

Canada has entered each World War woefully understaffed, and underequipped. As we sit on the brink of WWIII the government has worked tirelessly to set us up to maintain that proud tradition.

I guess I should write a thank you note to my MP.
Like they say, history rhymes ....
 
Sat down and started a quick and dirty list of stuff that assuming the Government is actually serious about rebuilding the beast . And assuming the beast it self can actually get out of it's own way.
This just what I came up with while sitting a work it's incredibly incomplete.
As I said it's just a start.
350 M1A1s lease or buy.
75 M109A7s lease .
75 Himars lease or buy.
75 M163A1 buy
500 M224A1 60 mm mortars Buy.
600 Oshkosh 8x8 tanker and drops capable trucks.
500 Javelin launchers
Stingers - lots !
This is all very tentative and set in marshmallow.
This is just for the Army and just the stuff we should be trying to get from the Americans. I haven't mentioned ammunition and with one exception I haven't touched logistics yet .
It's important enough to warrant a stand alone post of it's own.
 
Add a similar amount of M120/Soltam K6 120mm mortars and L9A1 51mm mortars. And more L16/M252 81mm mortars.

But, why Abrams and not the same number of Leopard 2s?
Agreed. Why not Leopards? We already use them, and the latest variants are arguably better that the latest Abrams.
 
Here is what really happens folks...
we get all that extra cash because for the Liberals its popular to stand off against Russia (need a competent military) so all that new cash gets broken down as
-20% more for Public works to pretend to look for more ships, planes, guns and drones. After 18 years we will have 3 new drones and 2 new patrol ships armed with C9s on pintle mount (yes I said C9s, gotta arm those new patrol ships), BUT defence procurement will have oodles of well paid civ employees
-15% for increased pay and benefits (I am all for fair pay but it gets to a point where the military ends up recruiting the wrong recruits)
-10% for new GOFO positions
-20% new social, culture and woke training for service members
-20% for temporary increase hiring of new recruits (the CAF, reserve and regular, will go on a hiring binge for 2-3 years and then suddenly turn the taps off
-15% upgrade all the existing and aging equipment

There. Wish I was wrong but I am not, sadly. The CAF and DND is so bloated with bureaucrats and BS, they don't know how to spend the money WISELY.
 
It seems to me that the invasion of Ukraine has made Canadians increasingly aware of the importance of having a strong and capable military. Hopefully our politicians will stop dithering.
Proably won't. As a general rule Canadians don't much care about our modern military posture unless its going into retirement homes, fighting fires or aid after a flood. We're really self centered IMO.
 
Years ago I had some interactions with upset employers. They were very much pro-reservist and tried to support not only hiring reservists but giving them time off for training.
Problem was maturity and human nature. Troops were calling their work on a Wednesday or Thursday saying they needed the weekend off for training, or last minute tasks/summer training. They were rightly upset about their employees "being ordered to train last minute".

The US system works because reservists are ordered to deploy or attend training. From what I can tell it's known in advance. In Canada everything reservists do is voluntary.

If we're going to protect reservists with job protection then it's only fair we figure out how to make said training mandatory and not when they feel like it e.g. providing a yearly training schedule (because it's not always the troops fault but the units).
We do this dance every 3-4 years. Have been since WW1. Still no workable resolution.
 
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