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Government hints at boosting Canada’s military spending

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I have long said that you could fund the CAF to 4 percent of GDP, but we would still lag behind in NATO and be much the same where we are.

It's never the money, it's politics. It's procedures. It's the pork-barreling in our defence spending that makes us a paper tiger in NATO.

My only hope in all of this for the CAF and the GoC, whatever the political stripe that may be, is that it will rouse them out of the "Peace Dividend" slumber. The world has been unstable since 1945. We have used geography, proximity, and association as a Defence Policy ever since. ICBMs don't care how close to the U.S. or how far from Russia/China we are.

Don't give us a dime more, but let us spend money on defence like it matters. The fact we follow the same rules for purchasing a fighter aircraft as we do for buying office furniture for a Service Canada office is disgraceful. Don't treat defense procurement as a stimulus package for Canadian Industry. There I said it.

We spend so much money, time, and effort trying to get that money to stay in Canada; be it by awarding contracts to companies with no capability to produce items without first "retooling" and"developing the production lines", or by hamstringing perfectly competent and competitive bidders by forcing the project to be made in St. Margaret de Poutain de Champignon, QC because the ruling government either lost the seat in the election, or won it with promises.

We spend so much money and staff hours jumping through TBS regulations that are great for other departments, but are terrible for defence procurement. Some items you have to sole source, because there are technologies and capabilities no one else makes. By doing the bid process, you get companies clamoring for a project they can't deliver on, but because they tick the bright boxes on the score sheet....

I truly and honestly belief we need to split from PSPC and legislate that its not beholden to TBS, only to the PBO/PCO. The guiding principles of this new Defence Procurement department should be "Off the shelf, from somewhere else" if there isn't an industry in Canada.

BOOTFORGEN has demonstrated how well we do when we are able to actually get what we need, instead of lining the pockets of a Canadian company that got lucky.

That, but with tanks, fighters, ships, weapons systems....
 
So conventional, under Arctic ice subs - what does that leave us in terms of currently available sub options?
AIP for under ice operation. Some kind of strengthening to push through the ice pack?

We did just sign a deal with Germany and Norway on defence cooperation

U212CD jumps to the front of the line?
 
Vague commitment in response to pressure. But should be a start.....

That is a next level cynical play.

They have no intention of honoring that commitment if they remain in office...but will probably put the project development on a starvation diet so they can continue to re-announce it a few times without actually doing anything other than read speeches. They will wring the last drop of tainted and ersatz value from this charlatans plan before throwing away the tattered remains of their dignity and honour...again

This government is beyond the pale - and the fact they are still there is an indictment of the country and both the political class and citizens / voters.
 
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The CAF falls for it again.

And again.

And again.
 
So conventional, under Arctic ice subs - what does that leave us in terms of currently available sub options?
Korean, Japanese, German, French, and Swedish. the RFI is going to be key, many companies are already gunning for this program, but if government says it has to be an existing design the europeans are likely out.
 
We have enough sailors in the RCN to operate these subs? What about the infrastructure and housing that will be required?
 
Agreed vague statement but there is at least one very specific element to this program that is a capability leap:

“Through the Canadian Patrol Submarine Project (CPSP), Canada will acquire a larger, modernized submarine fleet to enable the Royal Canadian Navy to covertly detect and deter maritime threats, control our maritime approaches, project power and striking capability further from our shores, and project a persistent deterrent on all three coasts..”


The bit in yellow is a capability aspiration for which we will have to rely initially upon US and UK tactical doctrine if the strike component is missiles (likely).

How would we support an SSK or 2, in that role far away from our shores. The subs will need fuel, provisions, logistics, possibly ammunition in that strike capability component of power projection.

I’m happy for this but also it’s a bit of a head scratcher. If the government is serious, there are heady years in the future of the Dolphin branch.
 
Just pulling a few threads together since they haven’t all appeared in one post-for-pondering, in light of the news of the past day or two:

  • Climate change as a threat/threat multiplier
  • Russia
  • China
  • Arctic sovereignty
  • New submarines
  • Northwest passage
In very few ways is our physical sovereignty actually in any danger; but our Arctic littoral waters are one. May be that in pushing for capabilities to better secure an emergent opening Arctic, we’ll also draw closer to NATO expenditure goals. Not a terrible thing in strategic terms. Russia and China as professed Arctic or near-Arctic states won’t give a damn about what profess; only what capabilities we demonstrate.
 
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Political Theatre in the hope of deflecting wrath from fhe redt of our NATO partners.

"Cheque's in the mail" is getting pretty tiresome for everyone involved.
They’ll have an opportunity to prove it in a budget before the election I suppose.

Realistically, the ability to meaningfully ramp up defense spending near-immediately is sorta limited.
 
Korean, Japanese, German, French, and Swedish. the RFI is going to be key, many companies are already gunning for this program, but if government says it has to be an existing design the europeans are likely out.
The Netherlands just selected the Shortfin-Barracuda as the replacement for the Walrus class, and it's a conventional development of an existing nuclear sub. And the Type 212CD is under construction and is a development of an existing design. So the European designs aren't necessarily out of consideration just yet.
 
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This procurement will enable Canada to develop closer ties with its allies and partners and establish a strategic partnership that not only delivers the submarines themselves, but creates a durable relationship between Canada and its strategic partner(s) to support personnel training and the sharing of information.

This to me sounds like it's not going to be one our traditional sources for equipment such as Germany. My money is firmly on Korean builder Hanwha
 
The foundational issues will be getting spots on the production line, getting infrastructure in place, getting trained sailors.
 
Yet if Ukraine throws in the towel simply because it is exhausted, that will all just be a sunk cost and we won't have anything ready to help in Poland and the Baltics, nor to deter anyone else who thinks that NATO or various coalitions of the willing centred on the US are temporarily weak.
By my reconning those costs have already been well spent in degrading the Russian military's stocks of equipment and ammunition. Add to that the fact that Canada's press is finally getting wise to the fact that our emperor has no clothes, is reporting it as such and demanding action

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Vague commitment in response to pressure. But should be a start.....

No its not. It's pure cynical bullshit.

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This to me sounds like it's not going to be one our traditional sources for equipment such as Germany. My money is firmly on Korean builder Hanwha

If Wayne Eyre is appointed Ambassador to (going back to) Korea, that’ll be a pretty interesting indicator.
 
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