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Government hints at boosting Canada’s military spending

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I have long said that you could fund the CAF to 4 percent of GDP, but we would still lag behind in NATO and be much the same where we are.

It's never the money, it's politics. It's procedures. It's the pork-barreling in our defence spending that makes us a paper tiger in NATO.

My only hope in all of this for the CAF and the GoC, whatever the political stripe that may be, is that it will rouse them out of the "Peace Dividend" slumber. The world has been unstable since 1945. We have used geography, proximity, and association as a Defence Policy ever since. ICBMs don't care how close to the U.S. or how far from Russia/China we are.

Don't give us a dime more, but let us spend money on defence like it matters. The fact we follow the same rules for purchasing a fighter aircraft as we do for buying office furniture for a Service Canada office is disgraceful. Don't treat defense procurement as a stimulus package for Canadian Industry. There I said it.

We spend so much money, time, and effort trying to get that money to stay in Canada; be it by awarding contracts to companies with no capability to produce items without first "retooling" and"developing the production lines", or by hamstringing perfectly competent and competitive bidders by forcing the project to be made in St. Margaret de Poutain de Champignon, QC because the ruling government either lost the seat in the election, or won it with promises.

We spend so much money and staff hours jumping through TBS regulations that are great for other departments, but are terrible for defence procurement. Some items you have to sole source, because there are technologies and capabilities no one else makes. By doing the bid process, you get companies clamoring for a project they can't deliver on, but because they tick the bright boxes on the score sheet....

I truly and honestly belief we need to split from PSPC and legislate that its not beholden to TBS, only to the PBO/PCO. The guiding principles of this new Defence Procurement department should be "Off the shelf, from somewhere else" if there isn't an industry in Canada.

BOOTFORGEN has demonstrated how well we do when we are able to actually get what we need, instead of lining the pockets of a Canadian company that got lucky.

That, but with tanks, fighters, ships, weapons systems....
 
Yes, they are called Cadets.

Not bad. Extend their age band. We keep kids in school longer. Extend Cadets to the end of University and let non-University types enroll as well.

It could even help if the Cadets were allowed to train to the levels that we were allowed to train to when I was a Cadet (Sea type).

You might even call the senior cadets Auxiliaries. And make use of them.
 
Not bad. Extend their age band. We keep kids in school longer. Extend Cadets to the end of University and let non-University types enroll as well.

It could even help if the Cadets were allowed to train to the levels that we were allowed to train to when I was a Cadet (Sea type).

You might even call the senior cadets Auxiliaries. And make use of them.
Why, to me you want the Cadets into the PRes as quick as you can, so you get 2 maybe 3 years of High School in the PRes out of them.
Every Cadet serving past 16 is a drain on the PRes.
 
Price of Natural Gas in Alberta - 0.54 CAD/GJ

Price of Natural Gas in US - 2.7 USD/MMBTU or 3.54 CAD/GJ

Price of Natural Gas in Japan - 12.91 USD/MMBTU or 16.93 CAD/GJ

Price of Natural Gas in UK - 1.07 GBP/therm or 18.17 CAD/GJ

Buy at 50 cents.
Sell at $18.00

But there is no business case.

....

I'm not saying there wouldn't be pain. I am saying that we should use the pain to our advantage.
If you re looking at consumer prices then you have to think about all the components, including transportation and domestic taxes. I think that at least 20% of that UK price comes from a direct consumption tax. Its fine to say you would "buy" the gas at .50 cents, but you can't just e-transfer it to the UK and charge $18. You have to get it there, and that might just cost money.

Over half of the petroleum products that the US imports comes from Canada, most of that through pipelines that run North-South in the West where our oil is. Our products are not imported because we are nice, but because it is being offered at a competitive price, especially for US mid-west sectors that use petroleum and have a harder time getting it domestically. The US is a net-energy exporter, but they are also a vast regional country where oil in one area may not be easy to get to another. So tariffs will result in higher prices that get passed to the consumer.

The UK relies on imports for roughly half of its natural gas. Most of that comes from Norway through pipelines. The US has stepped-in with LNG shipments to offset the embargo on Russian gas, but the US has those production facilities on the East coast. Geography matters! I am neither an economist nor a businessman, but I do think that there is a case to be made for the export of Canadian LNG to Europe. That would require substantial infrastructure, and I am not sure where the break-even is. Perhaps we will see a shift towards that. Its tough-sledding these days to propose fossil-fuel projects! Might change when voters are looking at not having oil for heating or mobility...
 
Why, to me you want the Cadets into the PRes as quick as you can, so you get 2 maybe 3 years of High School in the PRes out of them.
Every Cadet serving past 16 is a drain on the PRes.

We had 70,000 applicants. The CF only wanted 4000 for the Regs, Reserves and Rangers.

I want the other 66,000. Or the other 36,000 if only 40,000 are interested. And I want them for life.

Danish Home Guard - 18 to 60 = 42 years of 30,000 = 1,260,000 Volunteers.
 
We had 70,000 applicants. The CF only wanted 4000 for the Regs, Reserves and Rangers.

I want the other 66,000. Or the other 36,000 if only 40,000 are interested. And I want them for life.
Well given how many people the CAF is short. I’d suggest they are fucking retarded if they only took 4k.

To me the PRes properly run shouldn’t really have a cap, and your Reg Force should be taking in more than the required number, as you can then be competitive with who you offer more than a 3 year basic engagement to.
Danish Home Guard - 18 to 60 = 42 years of 30,000 = 1,260,000 Volunteers.
Which if we decide to invade you, may be relevant— but what do you expect to do with those folks in Canada.
 
“Which if we decide to invade you, may be relevant— but what do you expect to do with those folks in Canada.”

We are going to need them to guard all of the prisoners, just like in WW2.
Canada is not going to be defeated by an army that can be distracted by heaping stacks of genuine Alberta pancakes, smothered with cartel protected butter and pure maple syrup 😡
 
Which if we decide to invade you, may be relevant— but what do you expect to do with those folks in Canada.
Floods, fires, augmenting or conducting ground and disaster SAR, being a pool of people with non-CAF-standard qualifications (IIRC the British maintain(ed) a reserve pool of potentially useful academic/STEM/health people), civil defence (whatever that looks like today), and who knows what else.

All the stuff that your Militia type Didn't Join Up For, that's potentially a waste of finite time away from work and home when it comes to training and maintaining trade, and that still needs doing.

People, though, volunteer to do all these things in various ways already. Doing so in a likely better equipped organization that doesn't require they fundraise for equipment would be an improvement.
 
Canada's mentality regarding its energy wealth and it's relationship with the United States can basically be summed up by this scene from "There Will be Blood"

 
Opening statement. Balance on CPAC YouTube.


Canada's Military is F*CKED, but at least they have TAMPONS​

 
We had 70,000 applicants. The CF only wanted 4000 for the Regs, Reserves and Rangers.

I want the other 66,000. Or the other 36,000 if only 40,000 are interested. And I want them for life.

Danish Home Guard - 18 to 60 = 42 years of 30,000 = 1,260,000 Volunteers.
"The CF only wanted 4000 for the Regs, Reserves and Rangers" - Please tell me again what the current shortfall in the RCN is? From the 50,000ft level I see a massive issue here.....
 
So we recruited less from that 70,000 pool than we did in any year from 2004 to 2010.
Assuming I am reading the Table C chart at this link correctly , in 2004 we recruited 4,339 and in 2010 we recruited 7,522.

Also unless things have changed drastically in the positive, numbers under 6000 recruits yield barely any increase in strength, managing simply to replace attrition.

 
So we recruited less from that 70,000 pool than we did in any year from 2004 to 2010.
Assuming I am reading the Table C chart at this link correctly , in 2004 we recruited 4,339 and in 2010 we recruited 7,522.

Also unless things have changed drastically in the positive, numbers under 6000 recruits yield barely any increase in strength, managing simply to replace attrition.


Except, with attrition, you lose experienced people and replace them with the opposite so it's not a zero sum game ;)
 
Except, with attrition, you lose experienced people and replace them with the opposite so it's not a zero sum game ;)


A potential contributor to the demotivation of the experienced? The lack of keen youngsters to work with and mentor?
 
A potential contributor to the demotivation of the experienced? The lack of keen youngsters to work with and mentor?

No.... just alot more work than you should be doing to keep a steady state.

At least Sisyphus could easily measure his work ;)

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Except, with attrition, you lose experienced people and replace them with the opposite so it's not a zero sum game ;)
The Treasury Board, DND and the CAF have made no real effort whatsoever to support, innovate and incentivize the retiree system (and experienced personnel) to stay connected and share experience, knowledge, wisdom after they’ve left unless they join the reserves, which probably doesn’t work for the majority of them.
When someone retires at 45-50, their life is only just beginning and within a year or two they would probably welcome a touch base call, solicit their interest in a project (or similar).
 
Except, with attrition, you lose experienced people and replace them with the opposite so it's not a zero sum game ;)
I don’t think that is an accurate statement in its entirety for the CAF. To a degree those experienced pers are replaced by those immediately behind them in ranks, time in and experience.
The new recruits are replacing the Ptes and Corporals bow MCpls, and Lts now Capts.

If the intake and outflow get too far apart in terms of numbers then yes the experience based starts eroding. I would suggest we have seen that but it’s due to the imbalance not necessarily the system bringing in people only at the bottom.
 
I don’t think that is an accurate statement in its entirety for the CAF. To a degree those experienced pers are replaced by those immediately behind them in ranks, time in and experience.
The new recruits are replacing the Ptes and Corporals bow MCpls, and Lts now Capts.

If the intake and outflow get too far apart in terms of numbers then yes the experience based starts eroding. I would suggest we have seen that but it’s due to the imbalance not necessarily the system bringing in people only at the bottom.
Fully agree. Fresh blood is needed in all institutions or it ages itself out of business. That's especially true of organizations like the military that needs a large number of folks with the vigour that youth brings. In addition you need to cull the top in order to provide reasonable opportunities for promotion/advancement for the younger and middle group or they will lose heart. It's also necessary to cull those at all levels that are just putting in time or are otherwise ineffective. How well you manage that process will determine how healthy and vibrant your organization will be.

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