Government hints at boosting Canada’s military spending

I'll believe it when I see it.

 

[Colin Parkinson]

Amateurs …

Saw that elsewhere, coveralls, gaiters and 51pat webbing. People complaining about Tacvests and other combat clothing gear would not get much sympathy from 1950-60 soldiers.

 

[Czech_pivo]

It must have been tough for JT to sit there and listen to our Monarch call out to him about all the changes that the new government is doing that is addressing all the mistakes of the last 9yrs.

• increase defense spending dramatically
• reduce timelines for Fed Govt review/approval of projects
• reduce immigration (to rebuilding trust of Canadians in immigration by restoring balance)
• reduce the cap on international students
• new fiscal discipline, spend less so Canadians can invest more
• reduce day to day Government spending (growing at 9% per year)
• tougher laws for car theft/home invasions by ensuring bail conditions are stricter
• investing in both conventional and new energy

All of those things (and alot more) are completely different than the approach taken by JT and he had to sit there front row and listen to his 9yrs of power being brick by brick taken down - at least I certainly hope so.

 

[Halifax Tar]

Well the King just announced that we'll be a part of the 'ReArm Europe' initiative, so I guess that's official.

If it gets us better funding and kit that's great. I just wish we could get away from Europe.

It must have been tough for JT to sit there and listen to our Monarch call out to him about all the changes that the new government is doing that is addressing all the mistakes of the last 9yrs.

• increase defense spending dramatically
• reduce timelines for Fed Govt review/approval of projects
• reduce immigration (to rebuilding trust of Canadians in immigration by restoring balance)
• reduce the cap on international students
• new fiscal discipline, spend less so Canadians can invest more
• reduce day to day Government spending (growing at 9% per year)
• tougher laws for car theft/home invasions by ensuring bail conditions are stricter
• investing in both conventional and new energy

All of those things (and alot more) are completely different than the approach taken by JT and he had to sit there front row and listen to his 9yrs of power being brick by brick taken down - at least I certainly hope so.

So no news on the LPC campaigned on promised pay increase and tax cuts ?

Anything deeper than your headlines or is it the typical LPC delivery of announcements without the actual deliverables ?

I bet JT isn't even paying attention.

 

[Kirkhill]

5% is impossible for basically any NATO country not under current threat. Sure Poland or Estonia or Lithuania can justify it, but it'd be political suicide anywhere else. Healthcare, a social safety net or 5% GDP on defence, pick 2. Frankly, jacking the defence spending in most countries to 5% in peacetime (US included), will be counterproductive and will cause people to revolt. 2.5% - 2.75% across the alliance and amongst our partners like SK or Aus is more than enough to keep Russia and China contained.

I still think we can get to 5% if we add dual function civil-military infrastructure and incorporate some elements of foreign aid into that number.

 

[Quirky]

All of those things (and alot more) are completely different than the approach taken by JT and he had to sit there front row and listen to his 9yrs of power being brick by brick taken down -

When you're the PM you need to be held accountable for what Canada has turned into under his watch.

 

[QV]

It must have been tough for JT to sit there and listen to our Monarch call out to him about all the changes that the new government is doing that is addressing all the mistakes of the last 9yrs.

• increase defense spending dramatically
• reduce timelines for Fed Govt review/approval of projects
• reduce immigration (to rebuilding trust of Canadians in immigration by restoring balance)
• reduce the cap on international students
• new fiscal discipline, spend less so Canadians can invest more
• reduce day to day Government spending (growing at 9% per year)
• tougher laws for car theft/home invasions by ensuring bail conditions are stricter
• investing in both conventional and new energy

All of those things (and alot more) are completely different than the approach taken by JT and he had to sit there front row and listen to his 9yrs of power being brick by brick taken down - at least I certainly hope so.

Well him and his entire cabinet, which many are also the new cabinet....

But what do they care so long as they keep getting elected... I think we'll see a new trend: The LPC will just flip leaders right before an election every time they start to get crushed in the polling.

 

[Czech_pivo]

Well him and his entire cabinet, which many are also the new cabinet....

But what do they care so long as they keep getting elected... I think we'll see a new trend: The LPC will just flip leaders right before an election every time they start to get crushed in the polling.

Rarely does that work - failed for Mulroney and JC with Paul Martin.
Carney is the exception, this guy would have been a PC back in 1993 and if he had ran as a PC when Mulroney resigned I think he would have won back then as well.

 

[Blackadder1916]

Rarely does that work - failed for Mulroney and JC with Paul Martin.
Carney is the exception, this guy would have been a PC back in 1993 and if he had ran as a PC when Mulroney resigned I think he would have won back then as well.

It would have interfered with his schooling at Oxford (MPhil and DPhil - economics) and the wooing of his British wife (also an Oxford student, and ice hockey player - Oxford has hockey teams ).

Though he would have been three years more mature at that hypothetical election than the Tweedledum and Tweedledee of opposition leadership (Sheer and Poilievre) when they were elected at age 25 a decade later, without his more than a decade working in the private sector before joining the Bank of Canada (and his career following), Carney would possibly have been just as much an asshole as those two if he had entered electoral politics that young.

 

[Czech_pivo]

It would have interfered with his schooling at Oxford (MPhil and DPhil - economics) and the wooing of his British wife (also an Oxford student, and ice hockey player - Oxford has hockey teams ).

Though he would have been three years more mature at that hypothetical election than the Tweedledum and Tweedledee of opposition leadership (Sheer and Poilievre) when they were elected at age 25 a decade later, without his more than a decade working in the private sector before joining the Bank of Canada (and his career following), Carney would possibly have been just as much an asshole as those two if he had entered electoral politics that young.

Oh I agree about the timelines/age. But if he was 60yrs old in the summer of 1993, I think he would have run for the PC leadership and if he did, he would have won.

 

[Brad Sallows]

A throne speech is just a statement of intentions and ideals. Until an actual budget details spending increases and reductions, count on nothing in those respects.

 

[Maxman1]

Rarely does that work - failed for Mulroney and JC with Paul Martin.

Paul Martin won the 2004 election, which was called just as the Sponsorship Scandal broke.

 

[KevinB]

So a compromise to NATO?

https://twitter.com/x/status/1927380447710888353

 

[RangerRay]

Tucker Carlson is a Russian asset.

I would argue that your president is one as well, and is greatly influenced by Carlson.

 

[KevinB]

I would argue that your president is one as well, and is greatly influenced by Carlson.

https://twitter.com/x/status/1927450868632166751

A fool more likely

 

[QV]

I would argue that your president is one as well, and is greatly influenced by Carlson.

Yeah that makes total sense. Trying to convince EU to get off of Russian energy and to build up their military to counter Russia are things Russian assets tend to do.
Give your head a shake.

 

[MilEME09]

Yeah that makes total sense. Trying to convince EU to get off of Russian energy and to build up their military to counter Russia are things Russian assets tend to do.
Give your head a shake.

They do when America is with drawing, he can get europe to spend all they want, but with him pulling back before europe is ready, thats just asking for Putin to attack. Thats like telling your neighbor to get a new security company but also to disable his current alarm till the new ones ready. Who does it really help? Trump has dragged his feet on Russia, and even republicans in the senate wont push forward on the 500% tariff/sanctions package unless Trump gives the okay according to the speaker. Programs targeting russia have been cancelled, russian friendly people are advising the president. He is still pursuing a defacto NATO withdrawal of US forces, and we continue to see that.

 

[Remius]

How Tucker Carlson became Putin’s useful idiot

The American TV host and the Russian leader have enemies in common

www.ft.com

'He works for Putin' — Zelensky slams Tucker Carlson's pro-Russian commentary

"Regrettably, this blogger or journalist, whatever he wants to call himself, he fully repeats the words of Putin. ... He works for Putin," President Volodymyr Zelensky said in an interview with Piers Morgan.

kyivindependent.com

The role of Tucker Carlson in Russian state media's propaganda strategy

Tucker Carlson doesn't work for or with Russian state media. Yet his clips are constantly pushed in Russia. ISD's Elise Thomas writes an op-ed for the Moscow Times on the dynamics between the two and why Carlson is "much better" at promoting divisive, polarising views.

www.isdglobal.org

https://www.npr.org/2024/09/05/nx-s1-5100829/russia-election-influencers-youtube

Maybe not assets. Definitely useful idiots.

 

[KevinB]

They do when America is with drawing, he can get europe to spend all they want, but with him pulling back before europe is ready, thats just asking for Putin to attack. Thats like telling your neighbor to get a new security company but also to disable his current alarm till the new ones ready. Who does it really help? Trump has dragged his feet on Russia, and even republicans in the senate wont push forward on the 500% tariff/sanctions package unless Trump gives the okay according to the speaker. Programs targeting russia have been cancelled, russian friendly people are advising the president. He is still pursuing a defacto NATO withdrawal of US forces, and we continue to see that.

Don't try to understand POTUS Trump in that way.
1) He was the original Ukrainian supporter.
2) NATO countries freeloaded off the USA for decades and ignored his concerns about Russia in his first term
3) He and a lot of the US Security/Defense Apparatus is more concerned about China than Russia, believing that we held the wall for years, and now Europe has to ante up
4) He (foolishly IMHO) thought he could reason with Putin and broker a peace deal - I think he realized he got suckered now.
5) Just like Jake Sullivan with President Biden there are a lot of folks here that are more worried about a Russian breakup and what that would mean to their nuclear arsenal - they view that as the #1 issue in the Russian invasion of Ukraine

While I don't agree with a lot of the above reasons, it doesn't make them less valid in the eyes of those who hold them.

 

[PrairieFella]

Hot off the presses from CANSEC. Nee Roshel and Leonardo CUAS collaboration. Maybe a good choice to keep some of that defence money in Canada? I don't know enough about CUAS to comment on the quality of Leonardos tech. Is that some sort of RWS on top?

Roshel and Leonardo develop drone-hunting vehicle

Roshel, Canada’s leading armored vehicle manufacturer, has unveiled a new mobile counter-drone vehicle designed to address evolving aerial threats on the modern battlefield. The Senator Counter-UAS Vehicle, developed in collaboration with Leonardo UK, will be officially introduced at CANSEC 2025...

defence-blog.com

 

[Retired AF Guy]

Well the King just announced that we'll be a part of the 'ReArm Europe' initiative, so I guess that's official.

I just hope we don't forget about the South Koreans.