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Government hints at boosting Canada’s military spending

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I have long said that you could fund the CAF to 4 percent of GDP, but we would still lag behind in NATO and be much the same where we are.

It's never the money, it's politics. It's procedures. It's the pork-barreling in our defence spending that makes us a paper tiger in NATO.

My only hope in all of this for the CAF and the GoC, whatever the political stripe that may be, is that it will rouse them out of the "Peace Dividend" slumber. The world has been unstable since 1945. We have used geography, proximity, and association as a Defence Policy ever since. ICBMs don't care how close to the U.S. or how far from Russia/China we are.

Don't give us a dime more, but let us spend money on defence like it matters. The fact we follow the same rules for purchasing a fighter aircraft as we do for buying office furniture for a Service Canada office is disgraceful. Don't treat defense procurement as a stimulus package for Canadian Industry. There I said it.

We spend so much money, time, and effort trying to get that money to stay in Canada; be it by awarding contracts to companies with no capability to produce items without first "retooling" and"developing the production lines", or by hamstringing perfectly competent and competitive bidders by forcing the project to be made in St. Margaret de Poutain de Champignon, QC because the ruling government either lost the seat in the election, or won it with promises.

We spend so much money and staff hours jumping through TBS regulations that are great for other departments, but are terrible for defence procurement. Some items you have to sole source, because there are technologies and capabilities no one else makes. By doing the bid process, you get companies clamoring for a project they can't deliver on, but because they tick the bright boxes on the score sheet....

I truly and honestly belief we need to split from PSPC and legislate that its not beholden to TBS, only to the PBO/PCO. The guiding principles of this new Defence Procurement department should be "Off the shelf, from somewhere else" if there isn't an industry in Canada.

BOOTFORGEN has demonstrated how well we do when we are able to actually get what we need, instead of lining the pockets of a Canadian company that got lucky.

That, but with tanks, fighters, ships, weapons systems....
 
Using a pay raise to your already hollowed out military as a mechanism to say you achieved 2% defense spending is a move that won't be looked at favorably by the alliance. Can we stop doing stupid shit for once and be serious on defense?
 
Place the army in Europe and use it to strengthen economic ties with the EU. Push ahead with the sub order using South Korea, promise to base a sub in Korea or japan to work with allies over there, so the navy becomes our Pacific commitment. Once we start receiving our F35's we can consider whether the Pacific or Europe is best for a number of aircraft. Also base a P8 out Korea and possible give some of our Auroras to the Philippines.
 
Place the army in Europe and use it to strengthen economic ties with the EU. Push ahead with the sub order using South Korea, promise to base a sub in Korea or japan to work with allies over there, so the navy becomes our Pacific commitment. Once we start receiving our F35's we can consider whether the Pacific or Europe is best for a number of aircraft. Also base a P8 out Korea and possible give some of our Auroras to the Philippines.

I like this idea.
 
I can't help but wonder if this is also a parting shot...


How do Lax Kw'alaams feel about it and how it might impact on this? @Colin Parkinson

 
That band's position has swung wildly depending on the Council in power, as has their relationship with the other bands in the area. The area and the revenue sharing agreements are hotly contested between the bands. For now the project is dead, but i can see it revived under the CPC, who would likely walk back or grant an exemption to avoid the legal test the case may bring.

I should add that the government might be screwing everyone with this, but I have not dug deep into it yet. That being said the previous grants to the Haida have effectively killed economic activity in the islands. The Haida were utterly pissed that their former enemies were getting the lions share of revenue streams and they got none. The key element will be how far out does the title go and will it affect shipping?
 
That band's position has swung wildly depending on the Council in power, as has their relationship with the other bands in the area. The area and the revenue sharing agreements are hotly contested between the bands. For now the project is dead, but i can see it revived under the CPC, who would likely walk back or grant an exemption to avoid the legal test the case may bring.

I should add that the government might be screwing everyone with this, but I have not dug deep into it yet. That being said the previous grants to the Haida have effectively killed economic activity in the islands. The Haida were utterly pissed that their former enemies were getting the lions share of revenue streams and they got none. The key element will be how far out does the title go and will it affect shipping?

"Apparently" -

Haida have Aboriginal title over islands' lands, beds of freshwater bodies, foreshores to the low-tide mark


Nothing highlighted to suggest any kind of maritime domain but ...
 
Who knew being threatened with annexation would lead to a enlistment boom? There was apparently a full technical briefing today on the current state of the recruiting system and changes being made, particularly trying to stream line and speed up the security clearance process, which is the longest wait currently

 
This is where any possible new defense money has been allocated - a desperate legacy that Trudeau is trying to build for himself before he shuffles off to his newest teaching assignment.
"teaching assignment"

AKA collecting young impressionable "students" for special "learning" and then making NDA payments
 
That band's position has swung wildly depending on the Council in power, as has their relationship with the other bands in the area. The area and the revenue sharing agreements are hotly contested between the bands. For now the project is dead, but i can see it revived under the CPC, who would likely walk back or grant an exemption to avoid the legal test the case may bring.

I should add that the government might be screwing everyone with this, but I have not dug deep into it yet. That being said the previous grants to the Haida have effectively killed economic activity in the islands. The Haida were utterly pissed that their former enemies were getting the lions share of revenue streams and they got none. The key element will be how far out does the title go and will it affect shipping?
Feels like taking all Crown land that isn't, one way or another, spoken for, and dumping it on the AFN with a "you figure out who gets title, good luck, you've got a year, anything in dispute after a year remains as Crown" would be a significant move to address reconciliation and would spare the taxpayer the expense and fractal hassle of adjudicating title nation-by-nation.
 
To bring this thread back on topic, heres the full hour long brief about the modernization plan for the recruiting system

Thank you very much for posting this. I found it to be a positive experience watching this and I came away, as a civilian, that they realise the problem, have a plan in place to achieve it, an end date to reach it and the desire to achieve it well before the stated end date. I am encouraged by this and hopefully. I appreciated the fact that the CDS stated that she wants the CAF to be over 85k as soon as possible.

To all of you who still serve - I appreciate your service.
 

So some math;
6496 recuited
X Number of Releases
1300 Net gain

Current recruit training system is running flat out, according to all reports.

We are short 13,600.

13600/1300 = 10.46 years to get to full strength
Desire to add another 13500 to get to 85000, will take another 10.5 years. Looking at 21 years to full strength.

In order to get our strength up to 85,000 in a geopolitically relevant timeframe, say 5 years we would need to be adding 5420 Net gain each year.

That’s a lot of expansion.
 

So some math;
6496 recuited
X Number of Releases
1300 Net gain

Current recruit training system is running flat out, according to all reports.

We are short 13,600.

13600/1300 = 10.46 years to get to full strength
Desire to add another 13500 to get to 85000, will take another 10.5 years. Looking at 21 years to full strength.

In order to get our strength up to 85,000 in a geopolitically relevant timeframe, say 5 years we would need to be adding 5420 Net gain each year.

That’s a lot of expansion.
but perhaps fewer releases because equipment purchases are in progress, housing construction and renovation is underway and you all got a decent raise plus with the economy going down the toilet there may be fewer outside options
 

So some math;
6496 recuited
X Number of Releases
1300 Net gain

Current recruit training system is running flat out, according to all reports.

We are short 13,600.

13600/1300 = 10.46 years to get to full strength
Desire to add another 13500 to get to 85000, will take another 10.5 years. Looking at 21 years to full strength.

In order to get our strength up to 85,000 in a geopolitically relevant timeframe, say 5 years we would need to be adding 5420 Net gain each year.

That’s a lot of expansion.
I know work has been done to increase capacity with BMQs at other bases, 3-5 platoons seem to graduate from CFLRS every couple weeks (I follow the commandant on Twitter) in theory whats holding us back is instructors. Even CFLRS needed ARes augmentation
 
I know work has been done to increase capacity with BMQs at other bases, 3-5 platoons seem to graduate from CFLRS every couple weeks (I follow the commandant on Twitter) in theory whats holding us back is instructors. Even CFLRS needed ARes augmentation
Perhaps a surge capacity would be to send summer RegF candidates to ARes or NAVRES BMQ? Say 2 ARes BMQs and 1 Reg course per training centre. Could put a dent in BMQ backlogs.
 
Topic is open again- high speed train posts moved here.

 
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