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Government hints at boosting Canada’s military spending
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Carney promises to revamp defence procurement, boost domestic research
Liberal Leader Mark Carney is promising his government would change the way the government purchases military equipment and build up domestic research on advanced military technology.
www.ctvnews.ca
"Carney also says he would create a new defence research bureau for domestic AI, quantum computing and cybersecurity technology.
This one is important to me as I really think we need to better utilize and capitalize on the U of Waterloo and its Faculty of Science and its Institute of Quantum Computing. This is a sleeping giant that we need to awaken.
Welcome to the Institute for Quantum Computing | Institute for Quantum Computing | University of Waterloo
The Institute for Quantum Computing (IQC) at the University of Waterloo is a premier global hub for quantum information science research. Located in Ontario, Canada.
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Unless DPA has direct purchase authority, they're still going to have to go to bat with PWGSC.
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and TB
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That would take some creative legislative maneuvering and empire breaking.
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That would be the point of creating that entity I would assume. Otherwise you’re just spinning your wheels.
I don’t see how you can get around the TB in Canada.
But if you had an actual Defense Procurement Agency, it would at least be able to navigate programs to the proper gates.
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So what you are saying is that he will add to the bureaucracy and cause even further delays to the procurement of major defense initiatives.
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I expect that to be the end result, intended or not.
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Way i would see it is TB authorizes DPA's total budget and thats it, DPA then doesn't need authority to spend it
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Not my kids school. They all know about Vimy Ridge.
I think the problem isn't the schools, they cover the topics and provide the information. Kids that are interested grab onto it and do more research.
The problem is the US saturated culture, that doesn't tell Canadian stories. There is no real Canadian equivalent of Saving Private Ryan, The Pacific, Greyhound, Hurt Locker, Platoon, Midway, 1917, All Quiet on the Western Front, Dunkirk and the list goes on.
I was thinking about this quite a bit since the current troubles started. Not telling our own stories with big budgets and proper cinematic and/or international relases should be something we should aspire too.
This is the Australian model. Their procurement agency operates independently of normal government procurement. They have more leeway on industrial benefits. But aim to implement a broader industrial strategy over time.
Not saying this is a magic bullet. But it's changes like this that have gotten Australia to where they are today.
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No one should, given the fact we've been bitten by this particular varmint before from multiple different governments since the 60's.
I also don't expect Europe to spend to much money here on military industrial solutions. France is already balking a the $150 billion from the Euro budget being allowed to go to such foreign places as Norway, Turkey and the UK (and Canada).
I also don't expect Europe to spend to much money here on military industrial solutions. France is already balking a the $150 billion from the Euro budget being allowed to go to such foreign places as Norway, Turkey and the UK (and Canada).
then they shouldn't be standing for office.
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What's wrong with our political leadership, seriously at least one of them at least remembered our glorious invasion of Norway during the the last great unpleasantness...Vietnam... wasn't it.?
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Clearly impossible (snicker snicker snicker).
Sig put out a a good video on the mechanism.
Unfortunately tolerance stacking, wear of parts of certain materials and questionable QC compound some engineering issues.
You don't get around TB. But in other countries, the way that such an agency works is that they are delegated authority and given freedom to execute inside their arcs. So basically, they'd seek out TB approval for a whole portfolio of projects. That approval will come with various reporting limits and financial controls. They don't have to go back to the centre until they risk busting a limit. Should in theory, reduce bureaucracy substantially.
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Carney summary courtesy of Noah on Substack.
Oddly enough the thing I like the most about this (because we have to wait to see what happens) is the organizational names don't have Canada in the acronyms. Thank god! Why does everything have to have Canada in it. CRA, Canadian Space Agency, Health Canada etc...
DPA - Defence Procurement Agency (not CDPA)
BOREALIS - Bureau of Research, Engineering and Adavanced Leadership in Science
- The Liberal government will establish the Defence Procurement Agency, modernize defence procurement rules and amending legislation and regulations as required, to centralize expertise from across government and streamline the way we buy equipment for the military.
- The Carney government, to this effect, will also commit to buying Canadian whenever it makes sense and prioritizing Canadian raw materials such as steel, aluminum, and critical minerals.
- The liberals will also establish the Bureau of Research, Engineering and Advanced Leadership in Science or BOREALIS. This agency will focus on developing Canadian solutions in areas such as AI, quantum computing, cybersecurity, and other advanced fields.
- The Carney government will also develop a new export strategy for defence, while pushing for Canada's continued participation in ReArm Europe, and pivoting to focus on diversifying from the United States.
- Carney addresses concerns that putting the F35 on the table might put Canadian companies at risk of retaliation. He reiterates that there is no intention to cause that, but that there is a shift in the relationship. He says there is big opportunity to maximize economic benefit. He continues with bringing up plans for comprehensive negotiations on the US-Canadian relationship after the election, and how Canada stands to gain with a Made-In-Canada focus. He calls the situation fluid. He says that there is a path to integration that benefits both of us.
- On the Road to 2%, Carney reiterates as he has said before that he does not look at percentages, but on capabilities. To this effect he says something very interesting, that he believes spending is likely to rise beyond 2% if all comes together.
Oddly enough the thing I like the most about this (because we have to wait to see what happens) is the organizational names don't have Canada in the acronyms. Thank god! Why does everything have to have Canada in it. CRA, Canadian Space Agency, Health Canada etc...
DPA - Defence Procurement Agency (not CDPA)
BOREALIS - Bureau of Research, Engineering and Adavanced Leadership in Science
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Quick search has 200 recorded incidents with the P320, with over 2.5 million units sold since 2014. That's a incident rate of 0.008% over all for the model. With that low of incident rate that's not even a QC failure. It's all about optics, is it bad or are enough people amplifying the incidents to give it a worse reputation then it is?
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