Government hints at boosting Canada’s military spending

I'll believe it when I see it.

 

[brihard]

Back to another Scots philosopher -



As much as Carney has trafficked in principle (ESG/DEI/Net Zero) I now find myself hoping that those words were penned to serve a purpose, namely his own self-interest.

Now I am hoping to see if he can backtrack on those principles while keeping his reputation intact.

Eg

Bill C-69 (No more pipelines)
Bill C-48 (No more tankers)
Emissions Cap
etc.

....

I don't think he can repeal those and keep his Eastern Faction happy.
Can he, however, work with that legislation and still deliver pipelines and, as requested by the Eagle Spirit coalition, a Dixon Channel carve-out, to let tankers get to open water from Prince Rupert?
As I have noted over the years it is not necessarily that rule book that matters but rather the person that reads the rule book.

If Carney can put in place pipeline friendly bureaucrats with a PMO mandate and they can deliver the pipelines that would settle the separatist discussion in the West (and it is not just an Alberta thing - you find pockets in BC, Saskatchewan and Manitoba - particularly outside the major cities).

But he is going to have to give Danielle something - and a pipeline, or at least a corridor for a pipeline, with or without changes in the acts, would be the best indicator.

I also think that his best cover would be supplied by:

1 demonstrate that the demand is driven by First Nations who are willing to give "social licence" to pipelines over their traditional lands in exchange for a share in the profits.
2 move some of those corridors into protected lands, national parks, as part of the 30% of Canada to be protected.

That item 2 may seem counter productive but if the Corridors were Green Corridors - no development beyond the utilities transiting the corridors - perhaps there is something there.

For those of you that are familiar with MCCs (Motor Control Centres) - the Green Corridors could act as the Power Bus. Communities outside of the Corridors could then tie in and draw on the power supply.


PS ....

If building rails and burying pipelines why not run another pipe and feed the electricity lines down it as well? And another for fiber optics? Rather than build pylons all over the place.

Gotcha, thanks.

 

[Kirkhill]

PPS -

The Pathways Alliance Carbon Capture and Storage system has to be part of the cover he needs to justify more development. Industry needs to know that he will accept the trade-off before investing in it.

I don't know if this has been looked at but CO2 is a relatively inert gas. It has been used as a propellant. If they are going to capture CO2 in pipelines and pressurise it that CO2 could also be used as motive power.

 

[Kirkhill]

PPS -

The Pathways Alliance Carbon Capture and Storage system has to be part of the cover he needs to justify more development. Industry needs to know that he will accept the trade-off before investing in it.

I don't know if this has been looked at but CO2 is a relatively inert gas. It has been used as a propellant. If they are going to capture CO2 in pipelines and pressurise it that CO2 could also be used as motive power.

PPPS

Those lines carrying CO2 would also make for conduits for both the fibre-optics and the electrical lines. Oxygen-free environments are both beneficial and safer in both cases.

 

[Brad Sallows]

Crazy question from your resident crayon eater:

What’s the Golden Dome? Like an Iron Dome? But better and more beautiful?

A latter day "Star Wars". A keystone would be the means to intercept missiles during boost phase. That probably means deploying assets in space, which is the focal point of Chinese criticism. Whether the Chinese object to the militarization of space or the existence of an effective ballistic missile defence, we can't know. I suppose that if they held the upper technology hand, they'd have no objections to doing it themselves.

 

[Underway]

New Treasury Board 25-26 Main Estimates for GoC:

Expectations is that defence is going to be ~$35 billion next year. 2024 Main Estimate had ~30 billion but the actual numbers are closer to ~$33 billion.

Of note that's if nothing changes and things carry on as per right now. Any policy changes, pers changes, pay or benifits changes etc... change this math.

 

[dapaterson]

New Treasury Board 25-26 Main Estimates for GoC:

Expectations is that defence is going to be ~$35 billion next year. 2024 Main Estimate had ~30 billion but the actual numbers are closer to ~$33 billion.

Of note that's if nothing changes and things carry on as per right now. Any policy changes, pers changes, pay or benifits changes etc... change this math.

Main estimates are followed by supplementary estimates A, B and C; I have a sneaking suspicion that there may be additional resources flowing to Defence in the Supps.

 

[PrairieFella]

Main estimates are followed by supplementary estimates A, B and C; I have a sneaking suspicion that there may be additional resources flowing to Defence in the Supps.

When are supplementaries tabled?

 

[dapaterson]

When are supplementaries tabled?

Supplementary Estimates are published throughout the year; each release is identified alphabetically (A, B, C, etc.). In general, Supplementary Estimates (A) are tabled in May and the associated appropriation act is granted royal assent and becomes law in June. These provide federal organizations with the funding they need early in the year. Supplementary Estimates (B) are tabled in late October or early November and the associated appropriation act is granted royal assent in December. Supplementary Estimates (C) are tabled in February and the associated appropriation act is granted royal assent in March.

Supplementary Estimates - Canada.ca

Supplementary Estimates present information to Parliament on the Government of Canada’s spending requirements that were not sufficiently developed in time for inclusion in the Main Estimates, and will from time to time include urgent but unforeseen expenditures, such as natural disasters (an ice...

www.canada.ca

 

[HavokFour]

Feeling mildly optimistic so far.

Defence minister tells arms makers to prepare for accelerated federal spending

 

[PuckChaser]

Are we getting our L101 back or another slight of hand into procurement money we can't spend?

 

[Retired AF Guy]

I wonder how many the order is for. It’s good it’s coming with the FCD 558. Hopefully we procure the full range of modern munitions to go with the FCD.

The only thing I've seen is that the total cost for the project is $7.7 Million CAD.

 

[Retired AF Guy]

Hopefully the Logistic Vehicle Modernization program is tripled or quadrupled, because 500 heavy trucks and 1,000 "light" (2 ½ton) trucks isn't even close to enough.

And speaking of the LVM project; todays press release:

Marshall Canada Preparing for Full-Scale LVM Production | Joint Forces News

How Marshall Canada is preparing for full-scale production of Canada’s LVM (Logistics Vehicle Modernization) mission modules.

www.joint-forces.com

 

[Underway]

And speaking of the LVM project; todays press release:

Marshall Canada Preparing for Full-Scale LVM Production | Joint Forces News

How Marshall Canada is preparing for full-scale production of Canada’s LVM (Logistics Vehicle Modernization) mission modules.

www.joint-forces.com

Also something I read that can't be published here regarding the cost estimate for IDF modernization combined with the Rocket artillery purchases combined would end up being $7.7 billion.

Feeling mildly optimistic so far.

There is some reason to be. CANSEC is where you go to tell people what your plan is and have all those industry meetings. The Minister was very blunt I heard.

 

[dapaterson]

Also something I read that can't be published here regarding the cost estimate for IDF modernization combined with the Rocket artillery purchases combined would end up being $7.7 billion.


There is some reason to be. CANSEC is where you go to tell people what your plan is and have all those industry meetings. The Minister was very blunt I heard.

I don't think IDF is commonly used as an abbreviation for Indirect Fires.

I do however think that the paradigm has changed, and that folks who were planning to enjoy a slow, leisurely posting to a project not going anywhere are about to start googling "more hours in the day".

 

[daftandbarmy]

And speaking of the LVM project; todays press release:

Marshall Canada Preparing for Full-Scale LVM Production | Joint Forces News

How Marshall Canada is preparing for full-scale production of Canada’s LVM (Logistics Vehicle Modernization) mission modules.

www.joint-forces.com

That truck makes the MSVS look like a Brontosaurus

 

[MilEME09]

The only thing I've seen is that the total cost for the project is $7.7 Million CAD.

The Japanese paid 24 million USD for 300 launchers and associated equipment, so 7.7 million CAD seems like it would be like 50 launchers

 

[suffolkowner]

Hopefully the Logistic Vehicle Modernization program is tripled or quadrupled, because 500 heavy trucks and 1,000 "light" (2 ½ton) trucks isn't even close to enough.

is that all the Light LVM are going to be good for 2.5 tonnes?

 

[Good2Golf]

Are we getting our L101 back or another sleight of hand into procurement money we can't spend?

Possibly, and some OFA as well in-year. One can hope.

 

[Maxman1]

That truck makes the MSVS look like a Brontosaurus

"Light."

 

[Maxman1]

is that all the Light LVM are going to be good for 2.5 tonnes?

It's supposed to replace the LSVW, despite being twice the size.