Hamas invaded Israel 2023

[CountDC]

Israel has committed genocide in Gaza, UN commission of inquiry says

The panel finds that four of the five genocidal acts defined under international law have been carried out against Palestinians during the war.

www.bbc.com

The results speak for themselves, but it has been fairly obvious for a while that Israel is actively committing genocide. The question is will the world do anything about it?

Results from UN? There is a fully believable source when it comes to Israel.

Do something about it such as in the past that has worked so great? It's time for the world to realize that the people in gaza want nothing else but the genocide of the jews and control of the entire area. Two states never have and never will be on their agenda.

 

[Infanteer]

Israel has committed genocide in Gaza, UN commission of inquiry says

The panel finds that four of the five genocidal acts defined under international law have been carried out against Palestinians during the war.

www.bbc.com

The results speak for themselves, but it has been fairly obvious for a while that Israel is actively committing genocide. The question is will the world do anything about it?

Did you read the report and determine what this committee made its findings upon? Words to the effect that that Israel "knew that civilians would die, and conducted a war anyways."

If every act of war is genocide, then no act of war is genocide.

 

[Colin Parkinson]

Israel has committed genocide in Gaza, UN commission of inquiry says

The panel finds that four of the five genocidal acts defined under international law have been carried out against Palestinians during the war.

www.bbc.com

The results speak for themselves, but it has been fairly obvious for a while that Israel is actively committing genocide. The question is will the world do anything about it?

You realize this sort of political theatre is exactly why Hamas uses it's own population as meat shields. To Hamas they only have value as suicide bombers, fighters or as meat shields. Israel does more for Palestinians, than Hamas ever will. But Hamas will always get the free pass.

 

[daftandbarmy]

Just in case you were worried about Greta being out of the headlines for a couple of days

Gaza-bound Flotilla reaches Italian island, 2,000 km. from Gaza​

The Gaza-bound flotilla regroups off Pantelleria, plotting its next move as it sails more than 1,000 miles toward its destination.​

The Gaza-bound flotilla has reached waters off the coast of the Italian island of Pantelleria, according to vessel tracking data.

The flotilla is currently split into several groups, with the largest group of 18 vessels now near Pantelleria, around 2,000 km. (1,300 miles) from Gaza. Another group of boats is at the Sicilian port of Portopalo. A third group of only two sailboats has left the Greek island of Syros from the port of Ermopoulis to join the Global Sumud Flotilla.The flotilla is supposed to gather somewhere in the Mediterranean to combine into one large flotilla that seeks to get to Gaza. Global Sumud members believe that they are helping by trying to break through what they call Israel’s “illegal siege” of Gaza.

The flotilla has suffered some challenges along the way. When the first group of around 20 ships tried to leave Barcelona on the last day of August, it encountered high winds and had to delay departure by a day. Then it stopped off the Spanish island of Menorca for two days. When it arrived in Tunis on September 7, its members paused for another week.

On September 14, the flotilla again began to depart the Tunisian port of Bizerte, heading east. The flotilla leaving Tunisia appeared to be down to around 18 ships after several suffered issues that caused them to become unseaworthy for the longer journey.

Greta Thunberg's Gaza-bound flotilla nears Italian port | The Jerusalem Post

The Gaza-bound flotilla regroups off Pantelleria, plotting its next move as it sails more than 1,000 miles toward its destination.

www.jpost.com

 

[Eaglelord17]

You realize this sort of political theatre is exactly why Hamas uses it's own population as meat shields. To Hamas they only have value as suicide bombers, fighters or as meat shields. Israel does more for Palestinians, than Hamas ever will. But Hamas will always get the free pass.

Because annexing and driving people from their homes well starving them to death is doing so much for them. Remember when Israel shot those hostages who were trying to get back to Israeli lines waving a white flag? How many times has similar incidents played out for the Palestinians but is unreported? Hard to tell when your purposely preventing journalists from entering and reporting and shooting those who do.

Hamas is not getting a free pass, the same people who are declaring this a genocide also declared Oct 7th a genocide as well. Right now Israel is the aggressor, going well beyond self defense.

The lesson I have seen from Israel at the moment is work with us and we shall only slowly drive you from your home/kill you and force your family out (West Bank). Work against us and we shall do it quicker (Gaza). No where in there is Israel providing a option to peacefully co-exist.

 

[daftandbarmy]

Giddyup Gideon's Chariots...

Israeli army: ‘It will take several months’ to control Gaza City

Israeli forces pushed deeper into Gaza City after launching a ground assault before dawn.

www.aljazeera.com

 

[OldSolduer]

You realize this sort of political theatre is exactly why Hamas uses it's own population as meat shields. To Hamas they only have value as suicide bombers, fighters or as meat shields. Israel does more for Palestinians, than Hamas ever will. But Hamas will always get the free pass.

Same with the "fighters" in Iraq and Somalia who would use women and kids as shields.

 

[Colin Parkinson]

Because annexing and driving people from their homes well starving them to death is doing so much for them. Remember when Israel shot those hostages who were trying to get back to Israeli lines waving a white flag? How many times has similar incidents played out for the Palestinians but is unreported? Hard to tell when your purposely preventing journalists from entering and reporting and shooting those who do.

Hamas is not getting a free pass, the same people who are declaring this a genocide also declared Oct 7th a genocide as well. Right now Israel is the aggressor, going well beyond self defense.

The lesson I have seen from Israel at the moment is work with us and we shall only slowly drive you from your home/kill you and force your family out (West Bank). Work against us and we shall do it quicker (Gaza). No where in there is Israel providing a option to peacefully co-exist.

What makes you think the Palestinians have ever wanted to peacefully coexist with Israel?

 

[CountDC]

What makes you think the Palestinians have ever wanted to peacefully coexist with Israel?

Just all the chances they had to do that and instead conducted attacks.

 

[Colin Parkinson]

Just all the chances they had to do that and instead conducted attacks.

20 years to build up Gaza, make peace with Egypt (funny how people forget that bit) and be the neighbour people want around. Instead we got stuff like this Descent from patient to suicide bomber

 

[Jarnhamar]

Because annexing and driving people from their homes well starving them to death is doing so much for them.

What you're looking at is the culmination of 77 years of Israel being attacked by various entities and finally having enough of it, and not giving a shit about the judgement from anyone else.

Time and time again Palestine has shown it won't coexist peacefully with it's neighbours and this is the tragic result.

The Assyrian Empire (c. 900 - 612 BCE) constantly attacked their neighbors. Their neighbours got fed up with the constant warfare, committed old fashioned genocide, and wiped them out. Lesson learned? Fuck Around and Find Out.

No where in there is Israel providing a option to peacefully co-exist.

Palestinians, especially in Gaza, support Hamas.
Hamas mission statement is to kill all jews.
There isn't an option to exist peacefully with those factors.

 

[Colin Parkinson]

Then there is the "Peaceful co-exitance of Palestinians in their host countries" to go by, oh wait.....

 

[OldSolduer]

The whole Palestine issue was around when I was young. Its still here. And will be here long after I cease to exist

 

[Eaglelord17]

Israeli minister touts Gaza 'real estate bonanza', defying international backlash

Bezalel Smotrich, an ultranationalist who has been sanctioned by the UK and others, said he was in discussion with the US over the idea.

www.bbc.com

And reinforcing that this isn’t a military action against defined targets, rather levelling everything in sight to ethnic cleanse and annex land.

 

[CountDC]

The whole Palestine issue was around when I was young. Its still here. And will be here long after I cease to exist

Wait, what? You were young in the last 80 years?

 

[CountDC]

Israeli minister touts Gaza 'real estate bonanza', defying international backlash

Bezalel Smotrich, an ultranationalist who has been sanctioned by the UK and others, said he was in discussion with the US over the idea.

www.bbc.com

And reinforcing that this isn’t a military action against defined targets, rather levelling everything in sight to ethnic cleanse and annex land.

When you use everything for military storage, staging and attacks everything is the defined target.

 

[daftandbarmy]

The whole Palestine issue was around when I was young. Its still here. And will be here long after I cease to exist

"They make a desert and call it peace."

Tacitus

 

[Colin Parkinson]

Because annexing and driving people from their homes well starving them to death is doing so much for them. Remember when Israel shot those hostages who were trying to get back to Israeli lines waving a white flag? How many times has similar incidents played out for the Palestinians but is unreported? Hard to tell when your purposely preventing journalists from entering and reporting and shooting those who do.

Hamas is not getting a free pass, the same people who are declaring this a genocide also declared Oct 7th a genocide as well. Right now Israel is the aggressor, going well beyond self defense.

The lesson I have seen from Israel at the moment is work with us and we shall only slowly drive you from your home/kill you and force your family out (West Bank). Work against us and we shall do it quicker (Gaza). No where in there is Israel providing a option to peacefully co-exist.

Israel gave up Gaza in 2005 in the hopes it would bring peace. It did not. Nor did Hamas ever make peace with the Egyptian government, further isolating it's people.

The WB is another story, it was never Palestinian land, it was either Ottoman, British Mandate, Jordanian or Israel. It is strategically necessary for Israel to hold it, otherwise Israel is only 14 km wide and completely vulnerable to attack. Both populations are expanding, but thee is not enough land or water for both. Even if you gave the entire WB to the Palestinians they would not be content, they are very clear that ALL OF ISRAEL must disappear and the Jews dead or gone. On the other hand most Israelis are willing to have Palestinian settlements within the WB, despite the security risk and the immense cost in blood and treasure to ensure they do not conduct another Oct 7th.

Had the Arabs won in 1948, the Jewish population in the ME would have been a sad footnote and no longer exist. The Jews have been ethnically cleansed from every other Muslim country in the ME, despite being there for thousands of years. Under the Israeli "Ethnic cleansing" of the Palestinians, the population has gone from 156,000 to:
West Bank (including East Jerusalem): 3.19 million
Gaza Strip: 2.17 million
Territories occupied in 1948 (Israel): 1.7 million

Clearly the Israeli don't understand ethnic cleansing and need to take lessons from the Arabs:

The Jewish population in Arab countries declined from around 700,000–900,000 in 1948 to a mere 12,700 in 2019,

 

[Lumber]

The Jewish population in Arab countries declined from around 700,000–900,000 in 1948 to a mere 12,700 in 2019,

Right, but how much is that from Muslim countries "pushing" Jews out and how much is it from the local Jews saying "Waitwhat? There's a new Jewish country right next door I can move to and gain immediate citizenship? Sign me up!".

It was mostly the latter.

 

[daftandbarmy]

From the Line of Departure to the Sea....

Gazans turn to the sea to flee Israel’s bombardment

Some of Gaza’s residents are using boats to carry their belongings to the south as Israel bombs parts of the enclave.

www.aljazeera.com