Have psychiatric wards changed?

[noob_leech]

Please don't do that. 

I'm very sorry if that disturbs you.  I guess I should remind myself that self-injury is very triggering and be careful of disclosing it.  Nevertheless, that was in the past, these feelings were gone.  Thank you for your concern.

 

[the 48th regulator]

I'm very sorry if that disturbs you.  I guess I should remind myself that self-injury is very triggering and be careful of disclosing it.  Nevertheless, that was in the past, these feelings were gone.  Thank you for your concern.

May I ask what your interest is with the Canadian Military?

dileas

tess

 

[Yrys]

her long time interest, I would add :

Date Registered:    February 15, 2006 ...

 

[the 48th regulator]

her long time interest, I would add :

Date Registered:    February 15, 2006 ...

And the low post count, which includes one describing self abuse, and nothing else.

Sorry if I have been offending the "civvies" here.  However, this is not a site where we talk about self abuse, and such, unrelated to the military.

Why is it hard to understand??  Milnet.ca....army.ca.....navy.ca....airforce.ca......

Am I the only one to notice a repetitive theme?  Sorry for moderating the site, on behalf of the owner, in keeping with this ideology that this is a military based forum.

dileas

tess

edited for spelling

 

[Yrys]

And the low post count, which includes one describing self abuse, and nothing else.

Sorry if I have been offending the "civvies" here.  However, this is not a site where we talk about self abuse, and such, unrelated to the military.

Why is it hard to understand??  Milnet.ca....army.ca.....navy.ca....airforce.ca......

Am I the only one to notice a repetitive theme?  Sorry for moderating the site, on behalf of the owner, in keeping with this ideology that this is a military based forum.

I agree with you that the site is a "military based forum".
You did not offend me.

It is also open to civies that are showing interest into military
affairs, as some sub-forum title like "recruiting" are demonstrating,
it's seems to me.

This thread was started into "Radio Chatter" which is the place
where non-military things have the more space in this website.

However, I disagree with you partly on: "this is not a site where we talk about self abuse,
and such, unrelated to the military". Military people ARE humans beeing. Some humans
beeing are unto self abuse. Statistically (?) speaking, some must enter into the military.
And considering the high stress life that is a career in the military, with the moving,
the long exercises away home, and the deployement into war zones, I think
that some military personal, that weren't into self abuse before entering, must, statistically
speaking, change behaviors after a few years of experience.

That you, as a moderator, don't want that discussion by a civi here, I can respect that.
You're the volonteer moderator, and just for the time that all of you put into the website
to keep it running smootly, I respect yours decisions, while  keeping the right to disagree
with them.

Just thinking of the stress life of military personal have, banning self abuse subject
seem contreproductive to the promotion of a good mental health for the most people
possible.

I don't understand everything about PTSD. But some part of it, some people that suffer
from it, are self abusing themself in multiple ways, it seems to me. So banning a part of
the subject, if Mr. Bobbit agree with it, as the moderators, ok. But please, have a discussion
about it, and keep at least a part of the subject open, so that military personel will at least feel safe,
here, online in public or in P.M., to more or less anonymously (you're a big family, someone
sometimes recognise someone else) discuss what he/she is living and doing...

So, I would suggest to keep a part of the door open after debate and discussions in private,
and tell us which part is open, and which isn't... Don't ban all of it, please!

 

[Antoine]

I am a civilian too, and I wasn't offended at all, I found the Mod here professional, being constructive and patient with people having no experience in the military but asking a tone of questions about it. 

P.S. Yrys, your post was well written, thanks.

 

[Burrows]

To make a point here - Our capacity as moderators is only used when we are not "engaged" per se.  Just because we wear the staff banner, does not mean we are always "staff".  If a moderator is emotionally, or otherwise involved in a thread, another one of us will attend to it.  That is not to say we ditch our own, but we are here as members to post, as well as mods to police.

In every case where we act with the staff hat, we will post as so.  Much as I am doing now.  (Simply clarifying, not contributing).

Kyle Burrows
Milnet.ca Staff

 

[the 48th regulator]

dame_ningen, Yrys, mariomike, and all others who have posted in this thread.

I will admit that I jumped on this topic, specifically on dame_ningen's post, and was out of order in doing so.  I allowed my personal feelings to interfere with my moderation duties here.

Being one who deals with people who suffer from OSI's, myself included, on a daily basis as part of my occupation, I let the emotions get the better of me.

I will step away, and let one of the other moderators observe this thread, if there is a need.

dileas

tess

 

[mariomike]

Tess:  Your personal opinions on a variety of subjects carry a lot of weight in my book, because you speak from experience.
As for deinstitutionalization, Queen St Mental Health Centre ( they called it various names. Most knew it simply as "999" ) was the largest facility of its kind in Canada ( so I was told ). 999 and Lakeshore Psychiatric Hospital both discharged thousands of patients into South Parkdale in the early '80's. The called it "community based care". Only a small number of group homes existed. Perhaps thirty or so, by my recollection. The Province of Ontario, who had discharged these patients, refused to offer assistance finding accommodation. It seemed they wanted to absolve themselves of responsibility. 
Some patients went off their meds. Many went to jail, where they received little or no mental health care.
Without involuntary commitment, mental health professionals saw their client base shrink dramatically. They now found themselves being second guessed by "community advocates". They had lost their captive audience. Many mental patients did not vote. They lacked funding for a political lobby.

 

[Antoine]

I agree with MarioMike,

Back on topic, my girlfriend (I am living with her for the past 4 years) was on light antidepressant pills treatment for a while and she was followed once a week by a psychiatrist. Her mood wasn't stable, but she kept herself busy studying at university in a demanding program.

However, after graduation, she decided to register in a serious program (full time, 4 months long, supervised by health care professionals) related to her illness. The program intensity was so high that she attempted at her life and she was sent directly to an hospital psychiatry ward (full security). I was surprised as I tough you need a judge to discharge some one, but three MD signatures were enough. We were not happy with this situation, and I think a judge should has the final say.

We were all shocked as she was hidding all her feelings and we were probably not listening enough, despite we thought being supportive and always ready to listen to her, we didn't see her distress. Her father is a medical doctor (GP) and was highly concern as he met many psychiatrist with point of views he disagree on.

It was difficult for us, as we had no control over the situation, the ward had locked doors, she wasn't allowed to leave the floor at anytime, we were able to come visit her only if the psychiatrist allowed us, she was on heavy med, and sharing the floor with people having all kind of serious mental health problems. But we were visiting her as much as we were allowed and also we were always available to participate in any sessions with the psychiatrist, her and us. After many trials and error (wrong med = falling in more depress state, hearing voices, self-mutilation), they found the mixture of med that helped her to be backed on track without flying in space, so she was functional. However, we were making a lot of pressure on the psychiatrist, so he knew that we were watching. But at the end of the day, we were highly satisfied with their works based on the recovery of my girl-friend.

Finally with all our support and her motivation, she went back to the program, she completed it successfully and now, she feels way better, enjoying life, realising that life is a great gift. There is still a long way to go, but now we are more aware, she has more tools to solve her problems, she is functional and seems to enjoy daily life way more.

The story has an happy end mainly because:
1-Her mental condition was serious but curable.
2-She was "healthy" enough to put all effort in recovery knowing that life is great and she is going to make it, so a lot has to do with her basic personality.
3-The medication, makes a huge difference.
4-Our support.
5-Institutional support managed by professional.

I have posted this to support people having tough times, go get as much as help as possible from professional and family, you can make it, recover and enjoy life again.

 

[mariomike]

That's a very nice story, Antoine. Thanks for sharing it.