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The final cost after overruns, price gouging, and everyone skimming their share while the government looks the other way is far too high.
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The final cost after overruns, price gouging, and everyone skimming their share while the government looks the other way is far too high.
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Lol a nation can dream no ? Lol
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Do you want to let North Haverbrook open an insurmountable railroad gap with Canada, mister?
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Possibly because some proponents can't stop themselves from making "keeping up with the Joneses" (Europeans) arguments.
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Projection. But I guess you're worried about keeping up with the Americans.
I just want an easy and cheaper way of getting around my region that is a bit more resilient against our climate and higher fuel prices. Since we aren't going to let Southwest fly between Toronto and Ottawa any time soon and climate change isn't ending our winters in my lifetime, there's only one good alternative.
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Debate the topics not other members.
I already told you once that I expected you to stop playing the amateur psychologist with me.
Similar to an earlier remark I made, I'm not one of the people here perpetually talking up the wonders of others' ability to build HSR as if that were a reason for us to build one.
I'm not worried about keeping up with the Americans. If it were possible - and it's not, simply because we aren't going to legislate the risk tolerance they have - it'd be awesome, though.
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Out off the other coast, I'd be happy with any rail, so long as it's not lethal to ride on, takes large, predictable bulk freight off the roads, provides a trunk passenger service to somewhere near most of the airports and some of the ferries, and has a commuter service, for Vic/Esq, Duncan, Nanaimo, and Courtenay at the same speeds as were provided by steam a century ago. "Catching up to post-Soviet legacy-infrastructure-heavy Eastern European services" would be aspirational at this point.
Similar services for everywhere else in the province with never-ending highway issues and projects and ever-growing populations would be lovely. Really need a new WAC Bennet and a rail-focused Gaglardi.
On reflection, I've probably posted something along these lines before!
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Rail isn't immune. Did you see the washout at the Tank Hill underpass? (Nice new overpass there now.)
your thoughts bear repetition. With our distances and terrain deasil probably makes sense, at least for a little while but having a single engine pulling dozens of trailers makes far more sense than having one engine per trailer.
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The reality of BC and Vancouver Island, where most stakeholders that need to be consulted about rail are legally insane, is that you'd have a better chance of getting a foot passenger service running up and down the east coast than any rail service (on an already existing rail line right of way).
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I'm excited to read about the consultations with thousands of HSR experts in the hundreds of affected First Nations terrorities affected by the rails pathway.
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Damn...I'd forgotten about applying indigenous ways of knowing to the transportation problems...
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Then you should go sit in a corner and think about your considerable crime against humanity…
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Then you should go sit in a corner and think about your considerable crime against humanity…
Don't forget to begin that deep introspection with a land acknowledgement. Only then can you reach true enlightenment and balance.
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You should stop doing the same as well.
See above remark about keeping up with ever European Joneses'.
You have a habit of making assumptions about the motivations of others, while expecting others to be charitable about yours.
General Comment. welcome to the world of chat. Don't we all do this? All sides of this argument are valid. Yes we could benefit from an HSR and yes there are areas in transportation that should be addressed. And yes there are places where the money could be better spent. Everyone uses these pages to express their viewpoints AND their concerns. All are valid to the writer so accept that without having to one up every time someone adds a post that you don't agree with.
I am simply expecting others to behave the way they claim they want me to behave towards them.
Nobody else was being presumptive and acerbic in this thread despite being passionate. Me and you disagree. But I don't see you making assumptions about my motivations and intent.
There's undoubtedly a lot to be done. Nobody is suggesting that this project is where it ends.
But the nature of large projects is that they have to start a decade or two in advance. Especially in this country.
The Quebec-Windsor Corridor is already choking on traffic. On top of that, airports are starting to max out. None of this gets better in 15 years. Or we simply accept stagnation for half the population and GDP of the country. If we don't want to see that in 2040, then gotta start building the alternatives now.
And I would say the same for other highly populated parts of the country like the lower Mainland. Possibly even the CalEd corridor given the way traffic is heading there.
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