High Speed Train Coming?-split from boosting Canada’s military spending"

[Bruce Monkhouse]

Depends. When I went to Quebec we walked...

Thats great, you can have a great couple days in Vieux Quebec, but how was Ile D'Orleans, Montmorency Falls, or the Basilica of Mount St. Anne?

Oh yes, PMV required...

 

[dapaterson]

Thats great, you can have a great couple days in Vieux Quebec, but how was Ile D'Orleans, Montmorency Falls, or the Basilica of Mount St. Anne?

Oh yes, PMV required...

That's what CommunAuto is for. Local pickup and drop-off.

Lots of transportation options. Even more when you're not tied down to the fixed costs of a PMV.

 

[ytz]

Who goes on vacation and dreams of spending a quarter of their waking day in their car? And heck hotel parking is expensive as hell. And not very secure in a place like Old Quebec.

 

[Bruce Monkhouse]

Who goes on vacation and dreams of spending a quarter of their waking day in their car? And heck hotel parking is expensive as hell. And not very secure in a place like Old Quebec.

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[lenaitch]

Who goes on vacation and dreams of spending a quarter of their waking day in their car? And heck hotel parking is expensive as hell. And not very secure in a place like Old Quebec.

I do. The journey is the vacation; but then again, I'm a biker. I guess it's easier if your vacation destination is an urban area. I'm not sure Uber and its ilk cover Algonquin Park or Cape Breton Island.

You have to walk around 'old Quebec'. The last time we were there, we couldn't even find little niches to stick bikes in. Who thought allowing tour buses was a good idea?

 

[mariomike]

Good news about the Northlander.

I don't think rail means the end of always driving everywhere.

But, sometimes , it's nice to have an alternative.

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[ytz]

There's a time and place for driving vacations. Old Quebec isn't one of them.

 

[Furniture]

Thats great, you can have a great couple days in Vieux Quebec, but how was Ile D'Orleans, Montmorency Falls, or the Basilica of Mount St. Anne?

Oh yes, PMV required...

You pick your mode of transportation based on intention.

If I planned to visit the areas around Quebec, I might have taken my truck and found lodging in Levis. Instead, I chose the train, and spent my 5 days in Old Quebec. If a HSR option existed, I'd have taken it, so I didn't waste so much time in a train.

The train choice was entirely driven by intention at destination. If I planned to be outside the old city, I'd have driven in the same amount of time, and spent about the same amount in gas.

 

[mariomike]

The Turbo Train failed - in both Canada and the US - for a number of reasons, mostly technical.

And , possibly , in the U.S. at least, fashion.

 

[Altair]

Uh oh.

Alberta is planning for HSR. Along with local feeder rail, it's going to cost 60b.

Can we afford it?

 

[YZT580]

Uh oh.

Alberta is planning for HSR. Along with local feeder rail, it's going to cost 60b.

Can we afford it?

really good question and along with it, just to be consistent, do we really need to go full highspeed? Staying at 120 mph on a dedicated line would provide a travel time of 1.75 hours including city entry and exit and assuming no intermediate stops. Would allow the use of the track for commuter trains as well, with the appropriate sidings of course, in the same manner that both Belgium and France integrate their intermediate traffic. What would the cost difference be and is the difference worth the dollars? And how much of that 60B. is for the feeder traffic? I believe that YC/EG would make an excellent initial HS by the way.

 

[Altair]

really good question and along with it, just to be consistent, do we really need to go full highspeed? Staying at 120 mph on a dedicated line would provide a travel time of 1.75 hours including city entry and exit and assuming no intermediate stops. Would allow the use of the track for commuter trains as well, with the appropriate sidings of course, in the same manner that both Belgium and France integrate their intermediate traffic. What would the cost difference be and is the difference worth the dollars? And how much of that 60B. is for the feeder traffic? I believe that YC/EG would make an excellent initial HS by the way.

Alberta unveils plan for provincial passenger rail network

CALGARY — The Alberta government provided a first look at its provincial passenger rail plan on Friday, June 5, with Premier Danielle Smith saying the province was committing Ca$15 million over the ne...

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The officials did not mention a funding plan for building the network. The executive summary estimates construction costs of Ca$38 billion (in 2025 dollars) for the Calgary-Edmonton high-speed line and Ca$22 billion for the Calgary-Banff route. Dreeshen said that related transit-oriented development could help make the project "no cost or very low cost to the government of Alberta. You would have a private-sector component coming in, footing the bill for the train as well as all the development that goes around the train stations. … Those financing options and how that looks is the ongoing work we're going to have with this."

As for if it needs to be HSR, as we circle back to all the time, if it's not, why not just fly?

They had a Conventional Rail proposal and it was rejected, they went with HSR instead.

So that's two parts of a nation now looking at this and deciding HSR is the way. And yes, they will likely need to appropriate peoples land for this one as well.