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Feds to spend $1.9B to replace Via Rail locomotive fleet, build plant

The federal government says it plans to spend $1.6 billion to replace 45 of Via Rail’s aging locomotives and another $357 million to build a new assembly plant and maintenance facility.

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Feds to spend $1.9B to replace Via Rail locomotive fleet, build plant​

The federal government says it plans to spend $1.6 billion to replace 45 of Via Rail’s aging locomotives and another $357 million to build a new assembly plant and maintenance facility.

“Locomotive assembly is returning to Canada,” Transport Minister Steven MacKinnon said Wednesday at a news conference in Montreal, where the plant will be built.

Ottawa says the trains will be built by Switzerland-based Stadler. The first nine are to be built in Spain, while the remaining 36 will be built in Canada after Canadian workers learn how to assemble them from their Spanish counterparts.

The locomotives are expected to be the first hybrid trains in North America.

 

[YZT580]

Transportation is federal.

but you won't build a railway through southern Ontario without the province being on side

 

[YZT580]

Related to VIA rail -

Feds to spend $1.9B to replace Via Rail locomotive fleet, build plant

The federal government says it plans to spend $1.6 billion to replace 45 of Via Rail’s aging locomotives and another $357 million to build a new assembly plant and maintenance facility.

www.bnnbloomberg.ca

Feds to spend $1.9B to replace Via Rail locomotive fleet, build plant​

The federal government says it plans to spend $1.6 billion to replace 45 of Via Rail’s aging locomotives and another $357 million to build a new assembly plant and maintenance facility.

“Locomotive assembly is returning to Canada,” Transport Minister Steven MacKinnon said Wednesday at a news conference in Montreal, where the plant will be built.

Ottawa says the trains will be built by Switzerland-based Stadler. The first nine are to be built in Spain, while the remaining 36 will be built in Canada after Canadian workers learn how to assemble them from their Spanish counterparts.

The locomotives are expected to be the first hybrid trains in North America.

While totally ignoring the GM plant in London that manufactured locomotives for years. Need those Montreal votes or is it the support of the Laurentian elite.

 

[Altair]

but you won't build a railway through southern Ontario without the province being on side

The Parti Quebecois has said they are against the project and the Feds have responded that they dont really care, Ontario is no different.

Especially when you consider HSR is more popular than the Parti Quebecois or the Ontario PC

 

[Czech_pivo]

While totally ignoring the GM plant in London that manufactured locomotives for years. Need those Montreal votes or is it the support of the Laurentian elite.

That London facility has been long gone for over a decade, sadly.

London over the last 25yrs has been absolutely gutted as a city.

1) Canada Trust head office - gone
2) London Life head office - gone
3) Labatt's head office - gone
4) Electro-Motive facility - gone
5) Kellogg facility - gone

London used to be known as the city that had the largest number of millionaires per capita than any city in Canada.

 

[MacNav63]

That London facility has been long gone for over a decade, sadly.

London over the last 25yrs has been absolutely gutted as a city.

1) Canada Trust head office - gone
2) London Life head office - gone
3) Labatt's head office - gone
4) Electro-Motive facility - gone
5) Kellogg facility - gone

London used to be known as the city that had the largest number of millionaires per capita than any city in Canada.

Add another 10 years to your timeline and you could included the move of 1RCR to Petawawa.

 

[Czech_pivo]

Add another 10 years to your timeline and you could included the move of 1RCR to Petawawa.

True! Woolsey Barracks is not what is was when I'd visit London as a small kid.

 

[lenaitch]

Thats municipal.

But Trans canada highway, airport approvals, interprovincial rail, federal jurisdiction.

ON can complain all they like, if Ottawa wants to build it it will be built.

Your keyword for federal involvement in trade and commerce is 'interprovincial'. Transportation matters solely within a province is provincial. The Trans-Canada Highway is merely a string of interconnected provincial highways that receive some manner of inconsistent federal funding.

Even the Ontario Northland Railway (Ontario Northland Transportation Commission) was, until this year, a provincially-regulated railway, until the Canadian Transportation Agency determined that it was federally territory because it runs into Quebec.

 

[YZT580]

Your keyword for federal involvement in trade and commerce is 'interprovincial'. Transportation matters solely within a province is provincial. The Trans-Canada Highway is merely a string of interconnected provincial highways that receive some manner of inconsistent federal funding.

Even the Ontario Northland Railway (Ontario Northland Transportation Commission) was, until this year, a provincially-regulated railway, until the Canadian Transportation Agency determined that it was federally territory because it runs into Quebec.

so Ottawa should have shouldered the entire bill and not Ford? Does that make the Windsor to Ottawa segment entirely within the provincial jurisdiction? I can see that one ending up in court. The Montreal Locomotive Works stopped producing in 1985 whilst GM in London made their last engine in 2012. Be better to revive the newer one than start again except the way the press reads, it will simply be an assembly process not unlike Meccano: unpack the crates bolt a to b etc.

 

[Altair]

so Ottawa should have shouldered the entire bill and not Ford? Does that make the Windsor to Ottawa segment entirely within the provincial jurisdiction? I can see that one ending up in court. The Montreal Locomotive Works stopped producing in 1985 whilst GM in London made their last engine in 2012. Be better to revive the newer one than start again except the way the press reads, it will simply be an assembly process not unlike Meccano: unpack the crates bolt a to b etc.

They can go to court all they like, the constitution is clear.

92 In each Province the Legislature may exclusively make Laws in relation to Matters coming within the Classes of Subjects next hereinafter enumerated; that is to say,

Local Works and Undertakings other than such as are of the following Classes:

• (a)
  Lines of Steam or other Ships, Railways, Canals, Telegraphs, and other Works and Undertakings connecting the Province with any other or others of the Provinces, or extending beyond the Limits of the Province:
• (b)
  Lines of Steam Ships between the Province and any British or Foreign Country:
• (c)
  Such Works as, although wholly situate within the Province, are before or after their Execution declared by the Parliament of Canada to be for the general Advantage of Canada or for the Advantage of Two or more of the Provinces.

So yeah, have fun fighting the constitution Ontario.

 

[YZT580]

They can go to court all they like, the constitution is clear.

92 In each Province the Legislature may exclusively make Laws in relation to Matters coming within the Classes of Subjects next hereinafter enumerated; that is to say,

Local Works and Undertakings other than such as are of the following Classes:

• (a)
  Lines of Steam or other Ships, Railways, Canals, Telegraphs, and other Works and Undertakings connecting the Province with any other or others of the Provinces, or extending beyond the Limits of the Province:
• (b)
  Lines of Steam Ships between the Province and any British or Foreign Country:
• (c)
  Such Works as, although wholly situate within the Province, are before or after their Execution declared by the Parliament of Canada to be for the general Advantage of Canada or for the Advantage of Two or more of the Provinces.

So yeah, have fun fighting the constitution Ontario.

Ontario won't. They will proxy it to the Algonquins or the Mohawks from Akwesasne

 

[Altair]

Ontario won't. They will proxy it to the Algonquins or the Mohawks from Akwesasne

Or, more realistically, Ford is throwing a hissy fit and nothing will come from this because Ford can do nothing

 

[Bruce Monkhouse]

Ontario won't. They will proxy it to the Algonquins or the Mohawks from Akwesasne

Or find some kind of amphibian they decide needs to be "protected".

 

[Bruce Monkhouse]

Or, more realistically, Ford is throwing a hissy fit and nothing will come from this because Ford can do nothing

So like the Feds and pipelines then?

 

[Altair]

So like the Feds and pipelines then?

More like Eby.

Get in line and try to get a deal that the feds give to save face because the Feds will do what they please.