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How Dick Cheney and Rumsfeld got the US to invade Iraq

Thanks for the info Bane. I'll check that out.

cheers, Mark
 
I had a bit of a laugh about the opening of this thread, after reading the "Project for a new American Century" back when; it was quite clearly aimed at countering the People's Republic of China as America's potential peer competitor. History moved in quite different directions than the writers of the Project had envisioned.

Much more prescient documents were Robert Kaplan's "The Coming Anarchy", and Samuel Huntington's "The Clash of Civilizations?" but writers, even ones of the stature of Kaplan or Huntington, rarely set the stage for foreign policy.

As for Iraq, there are many threads here which examine the tangled motives and history, but one thing which is quite clear is Saddam Hussein's Ba'athist regime had been identified as a grave threat and remarked upon by the American President in 1998. People who can prove Bill Clinton's neo-con credentials are quite welcome to do so.

modified to correct grammer.

 
PBS is a publicly funded liberal agenda driven organization. Unless its the civil war I stay away from any of their programs dealing with the here and now. I used to be a big McNeill-Leherer junky but after McNeill left any pretense of objectivity seemed lacking. If PBS didnt get public funding they wouldnt be able to stay in business. Just the title of this thread I think is revealing.To the left Cheney and Rumsfeld are evil incarnate.

Iraq was invaded because they essentially thumbed their nose at the UN. They could have complied and avoided an invasion entirely.Instead Saddam decided to play rope a dope because he had strong backing in the UN from Russia,France and Germany who he thought would provde cover from US power.Saddam is to blame for his own destruction. Saddam's violation of UN resolutions gave the US all the legal justification for invading Iraq needed.
 
tomahawk6 said:
Iraq was invaded because they essentially thumbed their nose at the UN. They could have complied and avoided an invasion entirely.Instead Saddam decided to play rope a dope because he had strong backing in the UN from Russia,France and Germany who he thought would provde cover from US power.Saddam is to blame for his own destruction. Saddam's violation of UN resolutions gave the US all the legal justification for invading Iraq needed.

Exactly!

Cheers,

Wes
 
tomahawk6 said:
Iraq was invaded because they essentially thumbed their nose at the UN. They could have complied and avoided an invasion entirely.Instead Saddam decided to play rope a dope because he had strong backing in the UN from Russia,France and Germany who he thought would provde cover from US power.Saddam is to blame for his own destruction. Saddam's violation of UN resolutions gave the US all the legal justification for invading Iraq needed.

and there endeth the lesson.
(sounded better than +1  ;) )

 
KLW,

Everyone here is entitled to their opinion. If you have an agenda to push, without taking dissenting opinions into consideration, this is the wrong site for you. Go back and read the guidelines you agreed to, to be a member here. You have been advised.  You won't be again.
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KLW said:
Bias is irrelevent if what is said is true.

Prove it's true.

Those are then halftruths,and what I've been researching about Bush's and the Neocons objectives coincided with what the Frontline episode reported.
I don't know how someone could make a case with the Frontline report and spin it to make them look like they're good guys looking out for us.
Post your research  endnotes.

You show up here spouting your 'knowledge' with no backup or references. Really, you only have an opinion. Just like assholes, everyone has one. Your's hold no more water than anyone else's, unless you can back it with experience, like many here, or verifiable fact, of which you have none.

If your coming to the table, be prepared. If you're not prepared, quit wasting our time with useless anti 'whatever' opinion and drivel.

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Whatever,I can't argue with a bunch of stupid crazy fascist scumbags.

I'm outta here you pathetic vermin.
 
KLW said:
Whatever,You can't argue with a bunch of crazy stupid fascist scum.

I'm outta here you pathetic vermin.

You are the weakest link.....

Goodbye.
 
NFLD Sapper said:
You are the weakest link.....

Goodbye.


What? He forgot the words 'baby killers'.

We all seen this coming  ;D

Ha!

Wes
 
KLW said:
Whatever,with a bunch of stupid crazy fascist scumbags.

I'm outta here you pathetic vermin.

Well there is some truth in this statment I can't argue   ::) So why start something you can't finish?

by the way you forgot to label me as a Muslim(yes I am), babykilling, ex-NDPer, global warming denier, burn in hell disbeliever  :-*
 
What I find funny is that he accused all those who argued against him as "fascist"

In my opinion fascism is generally agreed as forcing your opinion unto others, well he came in here saying there is only one truth, while his opposition said that everyone is entitled to their opinions.

tsk tsk tsk, how fascist of you guys to be open to people having opinions. lol
 
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