How to attach the valise to the 64 ruck?
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never done it with an alice frame. so I really don't know how to do it with that frame. I used an 82 pattern bag on an alice frame, but never a 64 pattern bag.
all I've ever done (once the straps were tied off to the frame of course) with the 64 frame was to just place the bag on top of the bag, and pull down on said a7a cargo straps.
all I've ever done (once the straps were tied off to the frame of course) with the 64 frame was to just place the bag on top of the bag, and pull down on said a7a cargo straps.
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A7A straps are your friends. 
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I was thinking pictures of valise attach to a ruck. It may be akward for the head to have the valise
at the top of the ruck, and akward for the gravitational center of the body to have it at the base or back of the ruck,
so where does someone attach it ?
at the top of the ruck, and akward for the gravitational center of the body to have it at the base or back of the ruck,
so where does someone attach it ?
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ArmyVern said:
Pardon?! >
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Let's get it back on track. It's a legitimate question that deserves proper answering, without all the clag..
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Truth!
And I would like to see some pictures as well. I'm training for the Iron Man and have recently purchased a frame from the CPGear cats.
I had planned to pay one of the local guys (local as in Pet of course) to rig it up but if one of you fine folks would like to break out the TOETS on this matter,
I'd be happy to save me some coinage.
And I would like to see some pictures as well. I'm training for the Iron Man and have recently purchased a frame from the CPGear cats.
I had planned to pay one of the local guys (local as in Pet of course) to rig it up but if one of you fine folks would like to break out the TOETS on this matter,
I'd be happy to save me some coinage.
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seriously, stare at the bag, ruck, and straps on the bag.
feed a7a straps looped once around the frame at the bottom, tie off with a knot at the top. have it so that the metal part (sorry late nite right now for me, whatever it is called) is at the top of the frame. easier to tighten, and less likely to snap your frame (as I learned the hard way) when having that metal part at the bottom of the frame.
now you got a 64 pattern bag right? stare at it, now stare some more. see the straps on the back? stare at them, place on frame, stare again. should be able to figure out the rest
it's a pretty simple concept really. I mean if I could figure it out on my own, I'm sure anyone could.
if you're using the 82 kidney pad, it's a bugger to get on unless you get an extra two inches sewn onto it.
though I personally was able to score one of them eryx missle padded carrier kidney straps. much better for the ironman (as I'm hoping to do my second one this year). might be a little harder for you to score one of them. but there's photography heavy duty belts out there that you can pick up for $80. I keep hearing you can get em at blacks. but anytime I asked about something like that, I got a blank stare *shrugs*
as for the 82 pattern strap/back pad thing. it's alrightish I suppose. I didn't like it because of the way it makes my upper back feel numb after a little while (ie hour three and you just want it to end) I picked up a seperate back pad and shoulder pad combo that the riggers made up for the jumpers when we bribe them. ask your unit mat tech if he could jimmy up something for you. or go and get ahold of riggermade on here. he's been making a bunch for people doing the ironman this year. anywho, mounting the 82 shoulder strap system, again stare. stare at straps, I'm sure you can figure it out. again blah blah, yeoman could blah blah, he can and he's stupid.
feed a7a straps looped once around the frame at the bottom, tie off with a knot at the top. have it so that the metal part (sorry late nite right now for me, whatever it is called) is at the top of the frame. easier to tighten, and less likely to snap your frame (as I learned the hard way) when having that metal part at the bottom of the frame.
now you got a 64 pattern bag right? stare at it, now stare some more. see the straps on the back? stare at them, place on frame, stare again. should be able to figure out the rest
it's a pretty simple concept really. I mean if I could figure it out on my own, I'm sure anyone could.
if you're using the 82 kidney pad, it's a bugger to get on unless you get an extra two inches sewn onto it.
though I personally was able to score one of them eryx missle padded carrier kidney straps. much better for the ironman (as I'm hoping to do my second one this year). might be a little harder for you to score one of them. but there's photography heavy duty belts out there that you can pick up for $80. I keep hearing you can get em at blacks. but anytime I asked about something like that, I got a blank stare *shrugs*
as for the 82 pattern strap/back pad thing. it's alrightish I suppose. I didn't like it because of the way it makes my upper back feel numb after a little while (ie hour three and you just want it to end) I picked up a seperate back pad and shoulder pad combo that the riggers made up for the jumpers when we bribe them. ask your unit mat tech if he could jimmy up something for you. or go and get ahold of riggermade on here. he's been making a bunch for people doing the ironman this year. anywho, mounting the 82 shoulder strap system, again stare. stare at straps, I'm sure you can figure it out. again blah blah, yeoman could blah blah, he can and he's stupid.
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Okay, I've seen guys do it two ways.
Way 1 has it so that the a7a straps go around both the 64 bag and the valise, so when tightened, they squish everything towards the centre of the frame.
Way 2 has it so the a7a straps only compress the valise (and whatever additional cargo you may have), but this leaves a lot of slack and a gap in between the valise and bag.
Is there a preferred method or whatever one finds practical/comfortable?
Way 1 has it so that the a7a straps go around both the 64 bag and the valise, so when tightened, they squish everything towards the centre of the frame.
Way 2 has it so the a7a straps only compress the valise (and whatever additional cargo you may have), but this leaves a lot of slack and a gap in between the valise and bag.
Is there a preferred method or whatever one finds practical/comfortable?
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