Hussein has a LAWYER?!

[jmackenzie_15]

http://edition.cnn.com/2004/WORLD/meast/12/16/iraq.main/index.html

Can you imagine the publicity you would get as being this guy's lawyer? Only Hitler would be better.
Im interested to see what his argument is going to be... "please dont burn him alive, at least go with electrocution "

 

[jmackenzie_15]

"Of course, he's not guilty," said Ghazzawi, contending that the criminal proceedings are unfair and that Saddam legally remains president of Iraq.


^ my mistake... so the lawyer is insane.What a circus this will be, OJ step aside.

 

[Michael Dorosh]

http://edition.cnn.com/2004/WORLD/meast/12/16/iraq.main/index.html

Can you imagine the publicity you would get as being this guy's lawyer? Only Hitler would be better.
Im interested to see what his argument is going to be... "please dont burn him alive, at least go with electrocution "

WTF are you talking about?  The right to legal representation was something we fought for in the last World War.  Lawyers are professionals, just like doctors and soldiers; I imagine the opporunity to take on as challenging a case as that would be a point of professional pride.  The tenets of the legal system are such that a lawyer should be able to take anybody's case without prejudice or bias.  The better the lawyer, the better his ability to do so.

Shake out your head gear, lad.

 

[a_majoor]

The fact that Hussein has a lawyer sums up the difference between pre war and post war Iraqi society.

If the tables were turned and Hussein had captured George W Bush, the President would either have been shot our of hand or turned over to the Abu Gharab prison for long and sustained torture prior to being fed into an industrial shredding machine in front of the Al Jazzera cameras. (Abu Gharab was one of the most notorious prisons in Iraq for the cruelty of its staff, posing prisoners naked with women would not even have crossed their minds as a beginning, much less an end).

 

[jmackenzie_15]

i know he's entitled to a lawyer, i just figured the guy for the job must be pretty brave to try and win a case for not guilty.Although after reading the article, he does have a point.However, the biggest thing for him is, even if he loses, he'll be famous =p I can see that trial going on for a long long time though.

 

[KevinB]

The fact that Hussein has a lawyer sums up the difference between pre war and post war Iraqi society.

BINGO

 

[Hottie_Cowgirl_]

I know this is horrible to say (we should be better than him) ...but just imagine all the time and money that would have been saved had they just shot him in the hole they found him in.  He would not have thought twice about giving anyone more than that.

 

[KevinB]

I know this is horrible to say (we should be better than him) ...but just imagine all the time and money that would have been saved had they just shot him in the hole they found him in.   He would not have thought twice about giving anyone more than that.

True - bit Iraq as a country will be better served by witnessing justice in action, in the long term.

 

[Bruce Monkhouse]

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He would not have thought twice about giving anyone more than that.

...and that to all the naysayers is as good a reason as any to "justify" this war........next?

 

[jmackenzie_15]

If the americans had just killed him when they found him, he would have died as a martyr , or a hero to the cause of the people still fighting the americans, rather than just being captured pathetically which is alot more demoralizing.I think they made the right call on that one.

 

[Pieman]

I know this is horrible to say (we should be better than him) ...but just imagine all the time and money that would have been saved had they just shot him in the hole they found him in.  He would not have thought twice about giving anyone more than that.

I think the exposure of all the misdeeds of Hussein to the Iraqis and the world will be well worth it. I hear a lot of people say 'It is good we god rid of Saddam' but don't really have a lot of examples as to why. They just heard it being said on the news and 'he gassed he own people'. He did a lot of other bad things.  

I hope the trial will expose him for the jerk that he is and may contribute towards a more accepting attitude of the invasion...one can only help a change in attitude will lead to stabilization.
 

 

[bubba]

if hussain is smart he'll get johnny cochran,he freed willy and oj.... 8)

 

[jmackenzie_15]

Hussein's lawyer is saying that the trail is illegal, and he cannot be prosecuted, as the war itself was illegal.Which is true, the UN did not support it, and afterwards decreed it to be illegal.Team America World Police has become a reality i suppose lol.

 

[Hottie_Cowgirl_]

If the americans had just killed him when they found him, he would have died as a martyr , or a hero to the cause of the people still fighting the americans, rather than just being captured pathetically which is alot more demoralizing.I think they made the right call on that one.

Good point and I know that the Iraqi's need to have some real 'closure' on this but at the same time all this seems like such a huge waste of resources for the one person in the world that I think deserves nothing.

 

[Hottie_Cowgirl_]

Hussein's lawyer is saying that the trail is illegal, and he cannot be prosecuted, as the war itself was illegal.Which is true, the UN did not support it, and afterwards decreed it to be illegal.

Do you think they have a chance at winning with this argument? They have a good point that it was decreed as illegal by the UN.  I guess that it all comes down to how much clout the UN still has in the world.  It would be really sad if he got off because of the internal fighting and bickering at the UN.

 

[winchable]

Defence lawyers love a challenging case. What could be more challenging than the defence of Saddam Hussein? Even if the lawyer doesn't believe in his clients guilty or innocence it's something which I know a bunch of lawyers would love to sink their teeth into. In fact the Law school at Dal is having a moot trial (a decent and fair one) and theres a lineup to be Saddams Defence.

Where will the real trial take place?

 

[Michael Dorosh]

Where will the real trial take place?

In the hearts and minds of those that love him...

 

[jmackenzie_15]

It is illegal, but the tribunal will go on.The US does whatever it wants =p

It does seem like a waste of resources, but they likely would have (if saddam were killed) be put into more troops to combat the rising insurgency after their leader was "murdered by infidels".See where im giong with that? =p

 

[Shec]

When will the JAG episode be aired ? :

 

[Hottie_Cowgirl_]

It is illegal, but the tribunal will go on.The US does whatever it wants =p

It does seem like a waste of resources, but they likely would have (if saddam were killed) be put into more troops to combat the rising insurgency after their leader was "murdered by infidels".See where im giong with that? =p

First off, I just don't really get the illegal thing.  At some point it has to become legal to do the right thing even if others aren't willing to take that stand....BUT, the war's legality or necessity or what ever you would like to call it is a whole topic on it's own and we should start a new thread for that if you want to discuss it with me jmackenzie_15.

I see where you're going with the whole infidels thing but if you're going to go down that line of thinking then you basically have to say that he can never be put to death no matter what this trial says because someone is still going to think he's a martyr that died at the hands of the infidels who cooperate with the Americans.  In some cases I think that would be even worse because no longer do you have a country fighting one outside source but now it's fighting against itself and no one will trust anyone.