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735_winnipeg

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Earlier this week, I was and still am being offered a chance to go to Kandahar for Roto 2 this coming Aug.  I told my sgt that I'll think about it real hard before giving him an answer.  What do you think I should do?
 
Don't take my opinion very seriously...I am just a lowly OCdt but I would snatch any tour I could get my hands on.  If you don't want it I'll take it. ;D
 
Obviously you don't want to. Are there circumstances surrounding this question?

If you are a support trade more than likely you won't go outside the wire at all....if that's your concern.

Regards
 
I say do it. The experience and knowledge and the fact you'll have a job to do. Plus the extras like the money.  :salute:
 
I just came back from tour 2 weeks ago, it was long and I missed my family terribly, and decent flush toilets, but it was an experience I will never forget. It was my first tour and didn't know what to expect. I learned alot about myself and other people and think I am a better soldier for having gone.
 
Well let me just say this:

If you decide not to go, get out of whatever Military unit you are in and get a job somewhere else!!!!!!!!! You are non-deployable and a waste of rations.

However, if you do decide to go, enjoy it, see the sights, learn how people live with each others idiosyncrasies on a 24/7 basis and learn many life experiences.

Chimo!!
 
2023 said:
Well let me just say this:

If you decide not to go, get out of whatever Military unit you are in and get a job somewhere else!!!!!!!!! You are non-deployable and a waste of rations.

However, if you do decide to go, enjoy it, see the sights, learn how people live with each others idiosyncrasies on a 24/7 basis and learn many life experiences.

Chimo!!
I disagree.  There could be other factors (family, especially family, could be in a delicate situation right now such as a pregnancy, etc).
For ther original poster: if you have the chance to go, and if the main concern is your personal safety, well, don't cross roads, don't go in a bathtub, don't do anything but breathe.  If your concerns are somewhat more personal (eg: you could be a reservist and this will upset your chance to complete school in a timely manner), then wait.  Your time will come.
 
vonGarvin said:
I disagree.  There could be other factors (family, especially family, could be in a delicate situation right now such as a pregnancy, etc).
For ther original poster: if you have the chance to go, and if the main concern is your personal safety, well, don't cross roads, don't go in a bathtub, don't do anything but breathe.  If your concerns are somewhat more personal (eg: you could be a reservist and this will upset your chance to complete school in a timely manner), then wait.  Your time will come.

Okay, I accept your view however, why did he join the Military???
 
Why did he join the military?  I dunno, go ask him  :)
 
I joined cuz I wanted a job that hasnt tied me down to a desk with a computer in front of me and plus I would like to remember my younger years as me doing something worth while.  There are some circumstances around this question.  First, as of now, I am still untrained.  I was doing my reserve apprentice course last summer but was RTU for medical reason.  This summer I get to redo it again and hopefully pass.  If I do go on this tour, this will be a baptism of fire for my training as this tour will be right after I'm done my course.  Second, I have been selected for some taskings.  For me to go on tour would mean that my unit will have to get someone else almost last minute to fill my vacant spots.  My unit has worked hard to get me these spots and, to me anyways, would seem I would place burden on them cuz of me leaving on tour.  But going on tour would be considered by others to be a "higher calling" sort of tasking.  Third, I have handed my CT forms and other documents to go RegF.  I have been told that I could be fast-tracked to go to a RegF apprentice course which will run 4-5 months and I will neither not go on tour cuz I will be on course when the tour starts or not go on QL3 cuz I'm on tour.  Fourth reason is my personal life, which will remain personal.  Hope this answers your questions and hopefully adds more info but your opinions is still very much appreciated.
 
In all honesty whats the problem? Most guys i know would and are dying to go on tour. Screw your taskings if you have no personal problems, wife baby on the way court etc then do it. You might regret it in the future and there are guys who would take your spot in a heartbeat......
 
Simple fact is, if you're told to go than you go. no matter what. Don't worry about your tasking at your own unit. Operational tasking is pri 1, if your chain of command is asking (telling) you to go, you shouldn't have to worry about your job at your home unit while you're gone , It will get done. This is the military, you shouldn't be asked if you want to go or not, you should be tasked and that's the end of it. Anybody that signed the bottom line when they joined should know that. This is one of the reason why we lose a lot of good people...........they get sick and tire  of doing other people's tours. This is a big wheel, if you don't do your tour, somebodyelse will do it for you and maybe that person has just done it a year ago and he's got all the reasons in the world not to go back.............think about it, his reasons are better then yours.

Just my two cents, I've been in that situation to many times..........I have a live to

Cheers...
 
TAKE IT!!!

Guys around here quit for want of a tour - and you have the option?! Oh to be so lucky....
 
735_winnipeg said:
Earlier this week, I was and still am being offered a chance to go to Kandahar for Roto 2 this coming Aug.  I told my sgt that I'll think about it real hard before giving him an answer.  What do you think I should do?
735_winnipeg said:
I joined cuz I wanted a job that hasnt tied me down to a desk with a computer in front of me and plus I would like to remember my younger years as me doing something worth while.  There are some circumstances around this question.  First, as of now, I am still untrained.  I was doing my reserve apprentice course last summer but was RTU for medical reason.  This summer I get to redo it again and hopefully pass.  If I do go on this tour, this will be a baptism of fire for my training as this tour will be right after I'm done my course.  Second, I have been selected for some taskings.  For me to go on tour would mean that my unit will have to get someone else almost last minute to fill my vacant spots.  My unit has worked hard to get me these spots and, to me anyways, would seem I would place burden on them cuz of me leaving on tour.  But going on tour would be considered by others to be a "higher calling" sort of tasking.  Third, I have handed my CT forms and other documents to go RegF.  I have been told that I could be fast-tracked to go to a RegF apprentice course which will run 4-5 months and I will neither not go on tour cuz I will be on course when the tour starts or not go on QL3 cuz I'm on tour.  Fourth reason is my personal life, which will remain personal.  Hope this answers your questions and hopefully adds more info but your opinions is still very much appreciated.

What exactly is it you want us to do for you? Help You choose or give you a way to choose for yourself?

Here I will give you a method of figuring out. Tom Hopkins a brilliant sales guru, advocates the "Benjamin Franklin" method.  Ben Franklin created (yes that Ben F) a method to help decide on everything he did.

He created a list of all the positive reasons to do something.  Then created a list for all the negative.  He added them both up, and which ever side had the most points, was the path he chose.

So do a list of why to go, then one why not to go.....which ever has the most wins...

dileas

tess

Me?  I say go for it.....once in a life time man..

 
the 48th regulator said:
What exactly is it you want us to do for you? Help You choose or give you a way to choose for yourself?

Here I will give you a method of figuring out. Tom Hopkins a brilliant sales guru, advocates the "Benjamin Franklin" method.  Ben Franklin created (yes that Ben F) a method to help decide on everything he did.

He created a list of all the positive reasons to do something.  Then created a list for all the negative.  He added them both up, and which ever side had the most points, was the path he chose.

So do a list of why to go, then one why not to go.....which ever has the most wins...

dileas

tess

Me?  I say go for it.....once in a life time man..

Please, is this how this fine young lad should be basing in decision on?....Let's not forget about the military code of conduct is...If I'd want a sell a vacuum cleaner,I'd go to Tom  Hopskins for insparation. Keepind this in the right track, if He's part of the military and he's told to deploy than he should go..... end of story....
 
buddyhfx said:
Please, is this how this fine young lad should be basing in decision on?....Let's not forget about the military code of conduct is...If I'd want a sell a vacuum cleaner,I'd go to Tom  Hopskins for insparation. Keepind this in the right track, if He's part of the military and he's told to deploy than he should go..... end of story....

I'm pretty sure that this guy is a reservist, in which case he only has to go if he wants to - what a pity that so many troops would sell a reproductive organ to be deployed - and yet this one feels the need to debate active service.
 
Tell your Sgt that you don't want to go and that I will take your place for you.

Seriously.
 
GO!!! said:
I'm pretty sure that this guy is a reservist, in which case he only has to go if he wants to - what a pity that so many troops would sell a reproductive organ to be deployed - and yet this one feels the need to debate active service.


Right on "GO", it sounds IMO that he's looking for reasons or advice not to go.

In my era, we had three preferential choices, and any body I knew put down "Korea 1st. Germany 2nd and their home town 3rd."

P.S. I like the part about a reproductive organ, but its true.

Cheers.
 
buddyhfx said:
Please, is this how this fine young lad should be basing in decision on?....Let's not forget about the military code of conduct is...If I'd want a sell a vacuum cleaner,I'd go to Tom  Hopskins for insparation. Keepind this in the right track, if He's part of the military and he's told to deploy than he should go..... end of story....

Excellent,


Did you read anything from my post?   He wanted help, I gave him a method to choose, in fact I gave him my opinion on what I would do at the end.  I guess my sarcasm was lost in th translation.

Before you play hall monitor, I suggest you put a little more wind into your whistle.

And that is the end of story.

dileas

tess

 
I'm now leaning towards taking the sig op posting for this tour.  Can anyone tell me about any experience they had when they went or about the SOP for support trades while on tour?  Thanks.  BTW, I am a reservist, which has the advantage of having the option of when and where you want to be deployed than RegF, in case some of you forgot :)  But I don't wanna debate that part, the reason for me posting the original post was that there are several things going good, civy and personal wise, for me in the present and near future that I just wanna know if its worth putting on the line just to go on tour.  You don't have to answer that cuz that's been done.
 
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