Indirect Fires Modernization Project - C3/M777 Replacement

[Colin Parkinson]

UK Left With 14 Archers Defense Giants Now Pitching Buggy-Howitzer Combo as Artillery Solution | Defense Express

RCH 155 on a budget ISV buggy paired with 105mm howitzer is what BAE Systems, GM Defense and NP Aerospace offer UK MoD

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Lt Gun and ISV.

3 days in the field later

https://twitter.com/x/status/1990113330174865589

 

[Kirkhill]

3 days in the field later

https://twitter.com/x/status/1990113330174865589

On the other hand that 10 man det can pick it up and carry it.

 

[PrairieFella]

18 guns....
Polish order ..... 679 K9s

Along with

242 Krab SP 155s
290 Chunmoo MRLS
506 HIMARS MRLS
360 K2 MBTs
366 Abrams MBTs
128 Leo 2 MBTs
1000 Borsuk Tracked Amphibious IFVs with 30mm (28 tonnes)
568 Rosomak 8x8 Amphibious IFV with 30mm (22 tonnes)

Thats a lot easier to justify when you share a land border with a sworn nemisis.

 

[Kirkhill]

Thats a lot easier to justify when you share a land border with a sworn nemisis.

Fair.

But do you think they will notice the absence of 18 Canadian guns?

 

[Czech_pivo]

Fair.

But do you think they will notice the absence of 18 Canadian guns?

Only if it’s our turn to bring the donuts.

 

[KevinB]

Order enough for 3x6 gun Batteries worth, plus spares, training aids. Once production restarts on the M777, order enough to 6x 4 gun batteries plus training aids and spares.

Tool up a factory here with the SK help to build M118/119 for ourselves, Ukraine and possibly SK. Also work on producing the ammunition as well.

BAE isn't interested in having SK 'assistance'
Canada would be better of in that instance in going "all in" with BAE for the European Slush Fund - and building plants in Canada to make.
M109A8
CV90 (and beyond)
BsV10
M119 and M777's

 

[KevinB]

A lot of BAE products are also dual bonus -- they are used by America, but also not American.
So the CAF can get the benefit of having a large supply chain, and also the GoC getting points with the elbows Up crowd saying hey - we bought British...

 

[Colin Parkinson]

The "threat" of further SK inroads into their markets might be enough to make BAE more pliable. I think starting on the M118/119 will likely be easier for us and not require as much specialist equipment and skills.