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Injuries while in basic
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Knees are a big one, specially if you go infantry. Section attacks are murder on them, also going to one knee every two seconds while on a patol does not help them. Wrecked one knee at the start of QL2 when we were learning the types of movement (kitten crawl, monkey walk [thats what did me in]). My section 2ic and I decided to keep it quite, so I wouldn‘t be RTUed (yes I know probably the stupidest thing I have done. Then I fryed the other knee cause I was overcompincating with it. (Playing rugby hasn‘t helped either though). My advice wear kneepads (good ones that can take a lot of punishment, and are fairly well padded. I have used many and the best ones I have found are the Tactical style ones for military/swat type use) if your instructors allow it (they should, hopefully), and if you don‘t have strong knees you should wrap them to.
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Enzo - I‘m one of those too. And because I didn‘t read what I signed I got RTU as a training failure rather than a medical - still got recoursed, but nearly didn‘t because I was stupid. And I still have ankle and achilles tendon problems because I was too stupid to know when to say when.
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Yeah, very bad move on my part, had to have physio-therapy, paid for out of my pocket because of it. Also limits any possibility of going regs for infantry (something I had thought about from time to time). Although I have worked on getting it stronger, I don‘t play rugby any more, and I am in Coy HQ for this training year. But I have started a trend (yeah right) more and more people in my unit are wearing kneepads, those who make/made fun of me for wearing mine, aren‘t laughing at the end of an ex. 
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That‘s what keeps me up at night. I‘m currently fine. No health problems or problems with the injury I had. I do everything I did before. Ok, after a semester of school, I‘m not as hard as I was when I was working on the fish farms as a diver this past summer (****ed couch). But I was Reg Force Infantry when I was injured and I opted to leave at the time in order to heal and personal reasons. Yet I‘m not allowed to return?? I‘ve been told that I apparently can‘t even be hired as a clerk in the reserves (not my goal, just using that as a point) WTF eh. At this point, I‘d join a reserve support coy just to get back in the system (Infantry‘s where my heart lies).
Sounds like me.. except that I didnt have the arrogance.
My captain threatened me with recommending release if I went to the MIR for my back... but after pushing through it for a week, I was not performing to the level I wanted, nor was my back getting any better. He threw a fit when the doctor took me off course. Literally a fit. He made me go back and have them change the terminology on the chit because he didn‘t like it.
Needless to say, sitting around for 2 months of PAT plus dealing with crappy physio arrangements, boredom, and financial difficulties pushed me towards VR. Plus under ROTP, to go from RMC to Civvy U is near impossible, unless you start out that way. I know several people who got what they wanted otu of the military faster than those who went the other way by releasing and reapplying.
My captain threatened me with recommending release if I went to the MIR for my back... but after pushing through it for a week, I was not performing to the level I wanted, nor was my back getting any better. He threw a fit when the doctor took me off course. Literally a fit. He made me go back and have them change the terminology on the chit because he didn‘t like it.
Needless to say, sitting around for 2 months of PAT plus dealing with crappy physio arrangements, boredom, and financial difficulties pushed me towards VR. Plus under ROTP, to go from RMC to Civvy U is near impossible, unless you start out that way. I know several people who got what they wanted otu of the military faster than those who went the other way by releasing and reapplying.
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Meridian - Arrogance, can‘t help it, I like being me 
Seriously, our situations are alike, but I was more fortunate for the first portion. My nco‘s and my Capt. covered for me for 5 weeks (the length of time I had the injury). They did all that they could to help me through. By the end, I could hardly walk. Eg. for a 7km walk back from the field, I took 2 Tylenol 3‘s and another 2 30mins later. Didn‘t know which was worse, the pain or almost passing out from the meds. I was about 3 weeks from the end and everyone wanted me to get through, but it wasn‘t meant to be. After surgery, I was in a situation identical to yours. PAT sucked, what physio and prisoners had more freedom.
I wrestle with the "should I have stayed in and waited it out?" Hindsight is 20/20. At the time, I thought, get out, heal and then go back. My warrant‘s the one who suggested it, advising that I attend college, join an infantry reserve unit and eventually return as an officer. Sounded fine at the time. Just didn‘t ever think it would go this way. Glass is half full, had fun in the past few years, all adds to the character building I suppose.
Were you able to return to the CF? Did you try? Curious.
Seriously, our situations are alike, but I was more fortunate for the first portion. My nco‘s and my Capt. covered for me for 5 weeks (the length of time I had the injury). They did all that they could to help me through. By the end, I could hardly walk. Eg. for a 7km walk back from the field, I took 2 Tylenol 3‘s and another 2 30mins later. Didn‘t know which was worse, the pain or almost passing out from the meds. I was about 3 weeks from the end and everyone wanted me to get through, but it wasn‘t meant to be. After surgery, I was in a situation identical to yours. PAT sucked, what physio and prisoners had more freedom.
I wrestle with the "should I have stayed in and waited it out?" Hindsight is 20/20. At the time, I thought, get out, heal and then go back. My warrant‘s the one who suggested it, advising that I attend college, join an infantry reserve unit and eventually return as an officer. Sounded fine at the time. Just didn‘t ever think it would go this way. Glass is half full, had fun in the past few years, all adds to the character building I suppose.
Were you able to return to the CF? Did you try? Curious.
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Meridian - Arrogance, can‘t help it, I like being me
Seriously, our situations are alike, but I was more fortunate for the first portion. My nco‘s and my Capt. covered for me for 5 weeks (the length of time I had the injury). They did all that they could to help me through. By the end, I could hardly walk. Eg. for a 7km walk back from the field, I took 2 Tylenol 3‘s and another 2 30mins later. Didn‘t know which was worse, the pain or almost passing out from the meds. I was about 3 weeks from the end and everyone wanted me to get through, but it wasn‘t meant to be. After surgery, I was in a situation identical to yours. PAT sucked, what physio and prisoners had more freedom.
I wrestle with the "should I have stayed in and waited it out?" Hindsight is 20/20. At the time, I thought, get out, heal and then go back. My warrant‘s the one who suggested it, advising that I attend college, join an infantry reserve unit and eventually return as an officer. Sounded fine at the time. Just didn‘t ever think it would go this way. Glass is half full, had fun in the past few years, all adds to the character building I suppose.
Were you able to return to the CF? Did you try? Curious.
Seriously, our situations are alike, but I was more fortunate for the first portion. My nco‘s and my Capt. covered for me for 5 weeks (the length of time I had the injury). They did all that they could to help me through. By the end, I could hardly walk. Eg. for a 7km walk back from the field, I took 2 Tylenol 3‘s and another 2 30mins later. Didn‘t know which was worse, the pain or almost passing out from the meds. I was about 3 weeks from the end and everyone wanted me to get through, but it wasn‘t meant to be. After surgery, I was in a situation identical to yours. PAT sucked, what physio and prisoners had more freedom.
I wrestle with the "should I have stayed in and waited it out?" Hindsight is 20/20. At the time, I thought, get out, heal and then go back. My warrant‘s the one who suggested it, advising that I attend college, join an infantry reserve unit and eventually return as an officer. Sounded fine at the time. Just didn‘t ever think it would go this way. Glass is half full, had fun in the past few years, all adds to the character building I suppose.
Were you able to return to the CF? Did you try? Curious.
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Meridian - Arrogance, can‘t help it, I like being me
Seriously, our situations are alike, but I was more fortunate for the first portion. My nco‘s and my Capt. covered for me for 5 weeks (the length of time I had the injury). They did all that they could to help me through. By the end, I could hardly walk. Eg. for a 7km walk back from the field, I took 2 Tylenol 3‘s and another 2 30mins later. Didn‘t know which was worse, the pain or almost passing out from the meds. I was about 3 weeks from the end and everyone wanted me to get through, but it wasn‘t meant to be. After surgery, I was in a situation identical to yours. PAT sucked, what physio and prisoners had more freedom.
I wrestle with the "should I have stayed in and waited it out?" Hindsight is 20/20. At the time, I thought, get out, heal and then go back. My warrant‘s the one who suggested it, advising that I attend college, join an infantry reserve unit and eventually return as an officer. Sounded fine at the time. Just didn‘t ever think it would go this way. Glass is half full, had fun in the past few years, all adds to the character building I suppose.
Were you able to return to the CF? Did you try? Curious.
Seriously, our situations are alike, but I was more fortunate for the first portion. My nco‘s and my Capt. covered for me for 5 weeks (the length of time I had the injury). They did all that they could to help me through. By the end, I could hardly walk. Eg. for a 7km walk back from the field, I took 2 Tylenol 3‘s and another 2 30mins later. Didn‘t know which was worse, the pain or almost passing out from the meds. I was about 3 weeks from the end and everyone wanted me to get through, but it wasn‘t meant to be. After surgery, I was in a situation identical to yours. PAT sucked, what physio and prisoners had more freedom.
I wrestle with the "should I have stayed in and waited it out?" Hindsight is 20/20. At the time, I thought, get out, heal and then go back. My warrant‘s the one who suggested it, advising that I attend college, join an infantry reserve unit and eventually return as an officer. Sounded fine at the time. Just didn‘t ever think it would go this way. Glass is half full, had fun in the past few years, all adds to the character building I suppose.
Were you able to return to the CF? Did you try? Curious.
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Meridian - Arrogance, can‘t help it, I like being me
Seriously, our situations are alike, but I was more fortunate for the first portion. My nco‘s and my Capt. covered for me for 5 weeks (the length of time I had the injury). They did all that they could to help me through. By the end, I could hardly walk. Eg. for a 7km walk back from the field, I took 2 Tylenol 3‘s and another 2 30mins later. Didn‘t know which was worse, the pain or almost passing out from the meds. I was about 3 weeks from the end and everyone wanted me to get through, but it wasn‘t meant to be. After surgery, I was in a situation identical to yours. PAT sucked, what physio and prisoners had more freedom.
I wrestle with the "should I have stayed in and waited it out?" Hindsight is 20/20. At the time, I thought, get out, heal and then go back. My warrant‘s the one who suggested it, advising that I attend college, join an infantry reserve unit and eventually return as an officer. Sounded fine at the time. Just didn‘t ever think it would go this way. Glass is half full, had fun in the past few years, all adds to the character building I suppose.
Were you able to return to the CF? Did you try? Curious.
Seriously, our situations are alike, but I was more fortunate for the first portion. My nco‘s and my Capt. covered for me for 5 weeks (the length of time I had the injury). They did all that they could to help me through. By the end, I could hardly walk. Eg. for a 7km walk back from the field, I took 2 Tylenol 3‘s and another 2 30mins later. Didn‘t know which was worse, the pain or almost passing out from the meds. I was about 3 weeks from the end and everyone wanted me to get through, but it wasn‘t meant to be. After surgery, I was in a situation identical to yours. PAT sucked, what physio and prisoners had more freedom.
I wrestle with the "should I have stayed in and waited it out?" Hindsight is 20/20. At the time, I thought, get out, heal and then go back. My warrant‘s the one who suggested it, advising that I attend college, join an infantry reserve unit and eventually return as an officer. Sounded fine at the time. Just didn‘t ever think it would go this way. Glass is half full, had fun in the past few years, all adds to the character building I suppose.
Were you able to return to the CF? Did you try? Curious.
I‘m assessing my options to return.. I still need to work on my back a bit, but it is also a result of the necessity to properly train/get into better shape at an appropriate pace.. so Im going to work n that as well. I can meet all the standards, passably. But that is not nearly what I should be at, especially for combat arms.
You lead from the front, IMHO, not from the Iltis
You lead from the front, IMHO, not from the Iltis
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Sorry, I don‘t know exactly what happened there. I just noticed that now?? My bad.
I‘m interested to know if the CFRC is open to your return? Have you discussed anything with them? Do you know if it is an option? I ask because I thought the same thing and was surprised when I was refused.
I‘m interested to know if the CFRC is open to your return? Have you discussed anything with them? Do you know if it is an option? I ask because I thought the same thing and was surprised when I was refused.
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Most of the injuries are the feet, ankles and legs. Torn or pulled muscles or torn or pulled ligaments. All of the injuries are from walking on uneven ground at night or from small obstacles from walking at night or day that you did not see.
It can also be from just carrying your buddy using the fireman carry and you pull a calf muscle, always make sure you warm up before any activity.
Also good training would be to carry 20 kilos in a backpack and go on a 5 kilometre walk every day, make sure you walk as fast as you can because marches in the military are at a quick pace and most people have not developed the muscles for this and are not prepared.
Also make sure your boots fit you, don't let any one rush you at stores because this is very important, there a lot of confusion on sizes, the Combat boots are sized in English not USA sizes, most running shoes have both sizes written on the tong, so if you are a 9 US you probably are an 8 or 8 ½ in combat boots, the socks are also in sock sizes not boot size. Also having good kneepads like the other fellow suggested would be a good idea, Mountain Equipment co-op has some great ones, or a good skateboard set. Mountain Equipment co-op has tons of great equipment, I would also suggest getting the small tent pegs for your two-man tent and they have some great Gortex black gaiters that will keep you warm and dry.
If you get kneepads make sure they are black or green so you do not get flak.
It can also be from just carrying your buddy using the fireman carry and you pull a calf muscle, always make sure you warm up before any activity.
Also good training would be to carry 20 kilos in a backpack and go on a 5 kilometre walk every day, make sure you walk as fast as you can because marches in the military are at a quick pace and most people have not developed the muscles for this and are not prepared.
Also make sure your boots fit you, don't let any one rush you at stores because this is very important, there a lot of confusion on sizes, the Combat boots are sized in English not USA sizes, most running shoes have both sizes written on the tong, so if you are a 9 US you probably are an 8 or 8 ½ in combat boots, the socks are also in sock sizes not boot size. Also having good kneepads like the other fellow suggested would be a good idea, Mountain Equipment co-op has some great ones, or a good skateboard set. Mountain Equipment co-op has tons of great equipment, I would also suggest getting the small tent pegs for your two-man tent and they have some great Gortex black gaiters that will keep you warm and dry.
If you get kneepads make sure they are black or green so you do not get flak.
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sorry this is kinda off topic guys... but Trap...
maybe you can explain to me the kit and how they determine what you are allowed.
I‘m the kind of person... that I would get in, and the first chance I get blow a paycheque on a bunch of stuff to spiff up my kit and ruck.
Some for fashion and some for practical use of course...
But just what are you allowed to supplement for your own purchased equip?
Are you allowed say, a second pair of combat boots... if you prefer another brand or style?
Or how about a non-regulation length bayonet *jokes*
maybe you can explain to me the kit and how they determine what you are allowed.
I‘m the kind of person... that I would get in, and the first chance I get blow a paycheque on a bunch of stuff to spiff up my kit and ruck.
Some for fashion and some for practical use of course...
But just what are you allowed to supplement for your own purchased equip?
Are you allowed say, a second pair of combat boots... if you prefer another brand or style?
Or how about a non-regulation length bayonet *jokes*
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I guess I should stick to the vein of this convo as well.....
So for injuries related to training, does anyone think I‘ll have much problem with my shoulder?
History goes that about... 4-5 years ago I have a dislocation from skateboaring. During the next 2-3 years after that I dislocated it probably 6-7 more times. To the point that the joint/socket was pretty loose and could be dislocated by moving my arm above my head the wrong way...
I had surgery to correct it early last year.. and its been great since. The surgeon said my shoulder recovered great and should be 110% now.
I am kind of hesitant to really strain it, and right now can only get to about 6 pushups on that shoulder... before I feel it strain.
Now mind you thats not the muscle as far as I can tell, feels like the ligaments or joint itself just getting tired by then.
Anyone have any comments? maybe similar experiences.
By the time I get everything done and am called upon, it should be built up fine.
Just inquiring
So for injuries related to training, does anyone think I‘ll have much problem with my shoulder?
History goes that about... 4-5 years ago I have a dislocation from skateboaring. During the next 2-3 years after that I dislocated it probably 6-7 more times. To the point that the joint/socket was pretty loose and could be dislocated by moving my arm above my head the wrong way...
I had surgery to correct it early last year.. and its been great since. The surgeon said my shoulder recovered great and should be 110% now.
I am kind of hesitant to really strain it, and right now can only get to about 6 pushups on that shoulder... before I feel it strain.
Now mind you thats not the muscle as far as I can tell, feels like the ligaments or joint itself just getting tired by then.
Anyone have any comments? maybe similar experiences.
By the time I get everything done and am called upon, it should be built up fine.
Just inquiring
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Sappo, in reference to your question about add on kit. I will keep this brief, and before people jump down my throat, according to DND/CF regulations, you can only use CF kit, and you can not modify it. That being said the reality is kinda different. I am assuming you are going on a basic course, in that case find out from your course staff what civy stuff you can and cannot use. They may not let you use anything, or they may give you some latitude (do not count on it it is a course, and uniformity is strived for). When you get to your home unit ask the senior NCO‘s, what you can use and what you can‘t. Most units particularly combat trades (in the reserves at least) tend to give thier troops some latitude. As long as it is Green/Black or Cadpat they are generally pretty good about it. My CSM is like a walking advertisement for Canadian Peacekeeper and PPCLI kitshop. So check first.
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