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Intestinal Fortitude

Matt_Fisher

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Does anyone remember a recruiting poster that the Grey & Simcoe Foresters (?) had done sometime during the 80's entitled 'Intestinal Fortitude' that pictured a soldier waist deep in a swamp with an FNC1A1 and a definition of intestinal fortitude?

If anyone has the definition, would you mind posting it?

Thanks!
 
This sounds very much like a poster produced around that time by the old Central Militia Area HQ (now merged into LFCA). It was an Inf soldier coming through a swamp of bullrushes, but the definition overprinted on it was "Endurance" (IIRC). Its partner was a picture of a soldier out running by himself; the Caption was "Fitness: In the Reserve You've Got to Do It On Your Own" (IIRC). They were good posters. I have one somewhere, still. Cheers.
 
pbi said:
This sounds very much like a poster produced around that time by the old Central Militia Area HQ (now merged into LFCA). It was an Inf soldier coming through a swamp of bullrushes, but the definition overprinted on it was "Endurance" (IIRC). Its partner was a picture of a soldier out running by himself; the Caption was "Fitness: In the Reserve You've Got to Do It On Your Own" (IIRC). They were good posters. I have one somewhere, still. Cheers.

I have one of a soldier waist-deep into a swamp carrying his ruck, 77 set, web gear, C7 and all, dirty face........its says " Fitness : It could be worth your life"
 
have one of a soldier waist-deep into a swamp carrying his ruck, 77 set, web gear, C7 and all, dirty face........its says " Fitness : It could be worth your life"

Right you are. That's it! "Fitness" not "Endurance". Cheers.
 
I fully realize that we are talking about an obsolete recruiting poster, but there is a message therein which deserves to be addressed.  

This entire idea of "Fitness" versus "Endurance" is worthy of discussion - at least in my admittedly limited mind.   To whit, I would argue that "Endurance" rather than "Fitness" ought to have been the message all along.   I would argue that Endurance (both physical and mental) is the essence of operational soldiering.   I will leave the mental "robustness" aspect out of the conversation for the time being, in favour of a discussion concerning the purely physical.   After all, it is physical "robustness" that is the foundation of the soldier's lot and the key enabler for the requisite (but equally important) mental durability.

I will begin by noting that "fitness" does not necessarily connote "combat endurance".   A minor example may be in order.   I personally witnessed a whole bunch of "running-based" troops within another Army who  crapped out at a rate of 15%+ casualties when the going got tough at 10,000' ASL with a load on their backs.   No names, no pack drill.   Let's just say that they did not in any way live up to the expectations of their "Mountain" shoulder tab.   In fact, they stunk the joint out.....  

Physical "fitness" is a loaded term (no pun implied).   Are we talking cardio-vascular/Aerobic fitness?   Anaerobic fitness?   Or are we talking about "mental robustness" and "drive to succeed" above and beyond all of the above physical attributes?    In other words, "intestinal fortitude" and mental toughness coupled with a reasonable degree of physical fitness?

An interesting question, that I will leave as it is for now.   I will simply say this.   Anyone who thinks that running 5X per week with silk shorts and Nike running shoes will prepare them for combat operations is dangerously delusional and likely to be horribly disappointed when push comes to shove.   In the same vein, anyone who thinks that obtaining a maximum score on the XPRES test shuttle-run in any way relates to being "fighting fit" is completely out to lunch.  

Think load-marching.   Lots, and lots of load-marching.   Interspersed with jerry-can races, log PT, HLVW-pulling races, games of "British Bulldog", and other sundry techniques of "combat PT".   Yes, running is useful.   But I personally wouldn't do it more than once per week.   And any running ought to be liberally interspersed with plenty of push-ups, sit-ups, leg-spreaders, etc.   Pure running (eg. jogging) as a form of military fitness is the lazy man's route and it is an ineffectual cop-out.   It is the "default setting" that leaders (at all levels) fall back on when imagination is lacking.   Running may make you "buff", but can you hump 200 lbs of kit up the side of a mountain in an oxygen-deprived environment?   That's the skit that we need to be training for.   And truth be told, I've seen far more "chunky boys" do the business than I have "gazelles".   Quite frankly, on real operations I've never encountered (nor heard of) a need to run more than a few hundred metres at a time.   Far more important was the sort of "explosive" short-duration power that comes from sprints and squat-thrusts.   And even that sort of running is confined to the few and far between "game on" moments.   The rest of the time, soldiering tends to call for long-term "slogging"-type endurance.   I am here to tell you that load-marching ability only comes with practice.   It may be boring, the troops my hate it, but it certainly paid off in my lifetime....   I therefore have zero regrets about foregoing "fancy pants running" in favour of the more time-consuming (but realistic) ruck marching.  

Not to preach, but recent operational experience indicates that long-term physical endurance in the form of "humping" a heavy load is far, far more important than the ability to run/jog for 40 minutes in the latest/greatest hi-tech sportswear.....

 
I think humping is important too....

(Sorry, couldn't resist)
 
your intestinal fortitude come from your up bringing, soft life no heart, hard life all heart that why inf have a hard life
 
pro patria said:
your intestinal fortitude come from your up bringing, soft life no heart, hard life all heart that why inf have a hard life

...and combat engineers.....don't forget the sappers...they have a hard life too....

CHIMO !!
 
Mark C,

As usual we are in agreement.

I would suggest running twice a week vice your once, and make those long, slow runs.  Endurance.  Fancy pants only if you tend to chafe  >:D

Bring back the 32 Km ruck march as a test of infantry fitness, endurance and intestinal fortitude..
 
devil39 said:
Mark C,

As usual we are in agreement.

I would suggest running twice a week vice your once, and make those long, slow runs.  Endurance.  Fancy pants only if you tend to chafe  >:D

Bring back the 32 Km ruck march as a test of infantry fitness, endurance and intestinal fortitude..

Couldn't agree with you more........should be done for all combat arms
 
Ahh the old 25 mile ruck march. 25 miles in 8 hrs with full ruck, webbing & rifle. Was a must pass P.O.(one chance only) on my Inf. TQ3. After 20 miles in good time we were ordered to sit down & eat a box lunch before finishing the last 5 miles. Long enough to stiffen up. Those last 5 miles truly took intestinal fortitude. If my memory serves me correctly we finished with just under a 1/2 hr. to spare.
 
XRoyal: I recall doing the 32k in the winter, years ago. The OC, for some reason best known to him, decided to have us stop partway through and eat a big fat haybox lunch. Huge mistake! By the time we got rucked up again our legs were like cement. Once you're warmed up, head down and go for it.

Mark C/Devil: I agree 100% with the overemphasis on running. I very much like Mark's list of combat endurance training stuff. There used to be an excellent UK pam floating around that covered all of that stuff in detail, with lots of good ideas for PT in the field/on ops (when fitness can take a real dive if you don't watch it...) The current Army PT pam is not too bad either: I have used it for the last couple of years with good results. (OK--for me, I mean.....)

Cheers.
 
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