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Iran Super Thread- Merged

Iran was only truly worthwhile, if they were going to commit to the long fight. If not, we now have an actor who has an excuse to be unrestrained. And not just against the US and Israel.
Iran as it stands right now is a pariah and should be treated as such.
Not everyone shares that view though…
 
Iran as it stands right now is a pariah and should be treated as such.

They pretty much were before too.

Just the CRINK axis helping out. At best, this will server some of the sanctions breaking through the UAE which the Emiratis turned a blind eye too. And even that's not a guarantee. They may cut a deal to save their own economies. Meanwhile, Iran can hold the whole Gulf hostage for a while to come.

People need to set aside emotion and ask themselves what they'd do in Iran's shoes. That old ECOA step in your OPP.
 



Ouch.
 
Maybe the US (and Israel) could live with a continuation of the Iranian government as-is if it cut loose all its troublemaking proxies and invited observers to come in and oversee destruction of everything associated with their nuclear program.
I know how I'd bet re: the odds of this happening :)
 
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Ouch.

This must be the type of interagency officials that Brad said were holding Trump back.
 
I know how I'd bet re: the odds of this happening :)

Some of the conversations here. I find it hard to believe some folks were in uniform. I know not everyone had bars on their uniform. But thinking through enemy COAs and motivations isn't just taught to officers. Take a second and think through what motivates the IRGC and what you would do in their shoes.
 



Ouch.
Maybe POTUS47 didn't quite understand there was no threat from IRN - after all, he DID cancel security last summer for these guys who got death threats, right?
 
This must be the type of interagency officials that Brad said were holding Trump back.
The damning part of this is his assertion that this war was started because of pressure from Israel and other lobby groups. That actually jives with what Rubio was saying at the beginning when we got multiple conflicting reasons for it.
 
The damning part of this is his assertion that this war was started because of pressure from Israel and other lobby groups. That actually jives with what Rubio was saying at the beginning when we got multiple conflicting reasons for it.

It's mostly obvious no?
 
Maybe POTUS47 didn't quite understand there was no threat from IRN - after all, he DID cancel security last summer for these guys who got death threats, right?
The 2025 National Security threat assessment that came out in March of 2025 said that there was no nuclear threat from Iran at all.
The new 2026 assessment hasn’t been released yet but if it’s not altered or delayed in its release until this ‘issue’ in Iran is over, it would be interesting to see what it says…
 



Ouch.
And that won’t get many Allies lining up to send warships to help.
 
The 2025 National Security threat assessment that came out in March of 2025 said that there was no nuclear threat from Iran at all.
The new 2026 assessment hasn’t been released yet but if it’s not altered or delayed in its release until this ‘issue’ in Iran is over, it would be interesting to see what it says…
Honestly I take those with a grain of salt as none of the SCI stuff is in there, so any HumInt, ElInt etc gathered isn't included for fear of jeopardizing sources. Now given some of the statements made by the USG, there may be some in there - as it is clear that based on the statements about Iran X days away from a warhead that some TSI SAP stuff was declassified.



Franly Iran has been a PITA for ages - the Saudi's and Omani's already have pipelines that can avoid the Strait of Hormuz -- honestly if the Gulf States wanted to - they could work on MultiNational Efforts to lay pipes across to avoid the highly troubled areas. Outflow in Northern Jordan up through the Suez to avoid the Red Sea, and also expand the Omani terminals to avoid the Persian Gulf, and specifically the Strait of Hormuz.
Yeah overground pipelines aren't ideal, and some of that terrain is awful - they could also go out via Israel (albeit I doubt anyone wants to do that as Israel may decide they need that oil at any specific time, not to mention the issue with involving Israel anyway).

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This must be the type of interagency officials that Brad said were holding Trump back.

Fully expect there to be a swath of people who plan to try and harm the current administration enough to lose in the mid-terms and it will be sensationalized by the corrupt media establishment. That is the primary objective of the never-Trumpers, Dems, and large potion of the MSM, no matter the topic.

To come out and say Iran is no threat to the US is about as laughable as it gets. Iran since about 1979 has always been a threat to the US and every other western nation as well.
 
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