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I wouldn’t say victory. They achieved a lot of destruction but victory is determined at the conclusion not during.
Right now Iran is still fighting, has successfully shut down one of the most important shipping routes on the planet, is embarrassing the US on a international stage by causing its strategic aims in this war to fail and for them to go begging to their allies who they were actively knocking just days before.
Meanwhile those allies are turning away from them due to the rash and short sighted American actions which is directly effecting their economies.
America is looking weaker today than they have in a very very long time. China is likely overjoyed with this whole disaster.
‘Victory’ is a long way off by any means.
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Carrier USS Gerald R. Ford to return to Crete next week, sources say | eKathimerini.com
"Kathimerini understands that one scenario being examined is that the blaze may have been deliberately caused by crew members to terminate their extended mission."
"Kathimerini understands that one scenario being examined is that the blaze may have been deliberately caused by crew members to terminate their extended mission."
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Trump seems to be starting to crash out at the chickens coming home to roost on America’s belligerent self-isolation.
Trump fundamentally fails to understand what NATO is and isn’t, and I think he’s gonna make his ignorance on its scope, geography, and purpose everybody else’s problem.
Posted by Trump in the past two hours:
Trump seems to be starting to crash out at the chickens coming home to roost on America’s belligerent self-isolation.
Trump fundamentally fails to understand what NATO is and isn’t, and I think he’s gonna make his ignorance on its scope, geography, and purpose everybody else’s problem.
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US National Counterterrorism Center director resigns over war in Iran
The head of the National Counterterrorism Center resigned on Tuesday, becoming the first and most senior member of U.S. President Donald Trump's administration to resign over the war in Iran, saying Tehran posed no imminent threat to the United States.www.reuters.com
Top counterterrorism official Kent resigns over Trump's Iran war, says Iran posed no imminent threat
The director of the National Counterterrorism Center has announced his resignation, saying he “cannot in good conscience” back the Trump administration’s war in Iran.apnews.com
Ouch.
And this happens 3 months before the World Cup is hosted partially in the US.
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The Iranian regime just got spanked badly. It's about time. This was achieved with restraint and no ground forces. Good job US and Israel.
Above all, this will give Israel indefinite free will to bomb Iranian targets for months and years to come. Even when the US eventually leaves, Israel can keep picking away at the régime.
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Iran and it's proxies has been seeding places with a Persian/Lebanese diaspora with agents, Hezbollah has a presence in Latin America and the goal is to cause havoc and facilitate the flow of drugs into the US. (Also to generate cash)
There are some 80 million+ Iranians that want the regime gone. After the massacres in January and now the bombings, the only way the regime can survive is to crack down even harder. However the more they crack down, the less economic activity there is. If this summer is dry, then there will be no water in Tehran. Without economic activity, the funds to pay the regime supporters begin to dry up. While a portion are diehard religious types that will fight to the end, many will simply fade away.
From now on the US and Israel can strike anywhere at any time. So the Regime can't concentrate it's forces. If the rebels can take a city, then the US/IDF can provide air cover and critical supplies.
There are some 80 million+ Iranians that want the regime gone. After the massacres in January and now the bombings, the only way the regime can survive is to crack down even harder. However the more they crack down, the less economic activity there is. If this summer is dry, then there will be no water in Tehran. Without economic activity, the funds to pay the regime supporters begin to dry up. While a portion are diehard religious types that will fight to the end, many will simply fade away.
From now on the US and Israel can strike anywhere at any time. So the Regime can't concentrate it's forces. If the rebels can take a city, then the US/IDF can provide air cover and critical supplies.
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It wasn't Bush, Obama, Clinton, or Biden.
I guess Putin could technically be a "former" President for that short stretch that Medvedev was in power purely to legislate Putin into being leader for life.
www.nbcnews.com
I guess Putin could technically be a "former" President for that short stretch that Medvedev was in power purely to legislate Putin into being leader for life.
Trump said he spoke to a former president about bombing Iran. Four denials suggest otherwise.
Trump said twice Monday that he spoke to one of his predecessors about the Iran war and that the former president said he wished he had taken the action Trump did.
www.nbcnews.com
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Why though?
Creating a destabilizing environment in the UAE and/or Qatar benefits you as it creates dissent within the US’s coalition.
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I'm beginning to think that the best thing that could happen is the US just tear off the band-aid and pull out of NATO. Force the Europeans to make the tough decisions and investments required to fully take control of European defence and at the same time the US can stop complaining if NATO nations don't tow the line on American unilateral policy decisions.
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Maybe POTUS47 didn't quite understand there was no threat from IRN - after all, he DID cancel security last summer for these guys who got death threats, right?
Trump pulls security protections for Mike Pompeo, John Bolton
Hawkish foreign policy advisers from Trump's first presidency have faced alleged assassination threats from Iran.www.aljazeera.com
Totally in keeping with Kash “Chug-a-Lug” Patel shit-canning the FBI’s counterterrorism unit because they worked on the Jan 6 file…
This guy that quit is no peach either.
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Only assuming that the countries they are flying over to reach Iran continue to allow them access.
It’s in complete violation of the sovereignty of those countries if Israel continues to do without their express permission.
Or, do you suggest that Israel violate international law in order to achieve this?
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Ok, and then what? Which countries should the inevitable refugees go to? Iraq? Turkey (and then on to Europe), the Gulf States? Pakistan, maybe Azerbaijan or Armenia?
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Yup, ADHD will strike again with Trump and some other small country will pay some price.
