- Reaction score
- 7,294
- Points
- 1,260
Forget Stanford or MIT, locally for me it would be McMaster's with this long and robust nuclear programme that would be bombed into oblivion under his logic.
Iran Super Thread- Merged
- Thread starter JasonH
- Start date
- Reaction score
- 11,552
- Points
- 1,040
Those are both errors (technical malfunction, dated or otherwise incorrect intel).
What I mean for the first case is "the US intended to hit a school full of children because it was a school full of children".
- Reaction score
- 11,552
- Points
- 1,040
Coalitions.
PrairieFella
Army.ca Veteran
- Reaction score
- 3,990
- Points
- 1,110
If there is justice in this world, if war crimes are committed the accused are handed over to the Hague the next time the opposition is in power, be it democrat or republican administrstion committing crimes.
- Reaction score
- 11,552
- Points
- 1,040
Definitely. Those exist to serve essential humanitarian purposes. Military usage of water supplies is incidental.
Depends on location and purpose, but most likely, and definitely if "all" are on the table.
And some of that, too. At some "degraded" point Iran should get the benefit of the doubt that the usual war-supporting industries are in fact incapable of supporting much war effort at all, and primarily are to the benefit of civil uses.
This isn't a "total war", and it should be easy to see how much of Trump's bluster also fits "terror bomb them to the negotiating table". Somewhere in the grey middle might be tit-for-tat - Iran bombs something in a Gulf state; the US bombs something roughly equivalent in Iran.
Iran could reach the point at which it is materially incapable of doing anything to anyone outside its borders except threaten marine insurers, with the government just hiding somewhere saying "if you want us, come and get us" while the repressive institutions of the regime act independently, and the US would still have reasonable limits on what it should be permitted to attack. Of course, at that point the repressive institutions would still be a target and the tipping point for armed uprising and/or military defections would be a lot closer.
- Reaction score
- 9,761
- Points
- 1,140
That's not going to happen. No American government is going to send their political rivals to an international court to face justice for fear it would happen to them after their term.
PrairieFella
Army.ca Veteran
- Reaction score
- 3,990
- Points
- 1,110
The entire system is frankly rotten to the core. Its despicable how much they can get away with and how cynical their system has become.
Neither the U.S., Iran, nor Israel have ratified the Rome statute codifying the various statutory war crimes and crimes against humanity and establishing the International Criminal Court. So I don’t see any path where ICC would hypothetically have jurisdiction. On the contrary, the U.S. has sanctioned and caused great financial hardship for some of the ICC’s judges and prosecutors based on their involvement in investigations the U.S. deems contrary to its interests.
The ICC is a ‘court of last resort’, and the expectation is that wherever possible, accused will be prosecuted domestically or in another forum such as the International Criminal Tribunals established in the wake of a few different conflicts.
It’s all academic anyway. The U.S. enjoys near total impunity in international humanitarian law. The most you might see is certain American officials being unable to travel to certain countries.
Marco Rubio has set out the latest version of America’s objectives in Iran.
“1. The destruction of Iran’s air force
2. The destruction of their navy
3. The severe diminishing of their missile launching capability
4. The destruction of their factories”
No mention of the nuclear program, which is weird. No mention of Hormuz.
“1. The destruction of Iran’s air force
2. The destruction of their navy
3. The severe diminishing of their missile launching capability
4. The destruction of their factories”
No mention of the nuclear program, which is weird. No mention of Hormuz.
- Reaction score
- 7,294
- Points
- 1,260
Its all part of Carney's example of 'living the lie.'
- Reaction score
- 7,294
- Points
- 1,260
Setting up their ability to 'tick off' those 4 boxes and then exit from the entire situation.
1) - Tick
2) - Tick
3) - Close to be 'ticked'
4) - Could be a 'tick' already, completely opened ended with no tangible definitions of what's 'in' and 'out' of scope.
I've seen posts that suggest they did.
If they quit and Iran gets to permanently toll the Strait, that could be the end of the Gulf-US relationship.
GK .Dundas
Army.ca Veteran
- Reaction score
- 2,702
- Points
- 960
- Reaction score
- 11,552
- Points
- 1,040
"The Administration" following a script which doesn't match whatever Trump is saying isn't a novelty.
The America First President ending the Petrodollar and ushering in the Chinese era would be truly ironic.
- Reaction score
- 7,865
- Points
- 1,360
The irony of "if only more EV's were around" burns just a bit ...
restofworld.org
EVs were meant to bypass oil. Now they’re stuck at the Strait of Hormuz
The war has blocked the only sea route for the high-grade, low-carbon aluminum EVs need. There's no quick substitute.
restofworld.org
The irony of "if only more EV's were around" burns just a bit ...
EVs were meant to bypass oil. Now they’re stuck at the Strait of Hormuz
The war has blocked the only sea route for the high-grade, low-carbon aluminum EVs need. There's no quick substitute.
Well yeah. A lot of commodities depend on the Gulf.
But even oil and gas CEOs are now saying they aren't happy with what $100 oil and supply shocks will do to alternatives. No importing country (3/4 of the world) is going to forget this and how vulnerable they were.
- Reaction score
- 7,865
- Points
- 1,360
