Didn’t he said it would be easy?
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A few less-than-mainstream media accounts of "The Rescue" with different tidbits ...
theaviationist.com
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sof.news
migflug.com
www.twz.com
[Updated] U.S. Rescues Downed F-15E WSO Deep Inside Iran
The mission to rescue the isolated airman inside Iran has been described as one of the most challenging and complex in the history of U.S. special
theaviationist.com
Mission to Recover Downed F-15E Aircrew Puts Combat Search And Rescue in the Spotlight
The loss of an F-15E Strike Eagle in Iran prompted specialized Combat Search and Rescue units to spring into action, with a multitude of assets working
theaviationist.com
2nd Aviator of Downed F-15E Rescued | SOF News
The 2nd aviator of the F-15E Strike Eagle downed by hostile fire over Iran has been rescued. The Weapons Systems Officer had been evading.
sof.news
Behind Enemy Lines: The Most Daring Rescue Since Bosnia
How hundreds of U.S. special operators, Night Stalker helicopters, CIA deception, and MQ-9 Reapers pulled a wounded F-15E colonel out of the Iranian mountains — and what it cost.
migflug.com
F-15E Weapon Systems Officer Shot Down Over Iran Has Been Rescued (Updated)
The airman was rescued by U.S. special operations forces reportedly after a fierce firefight that was the culmination of a massive high-risk search operation.
www.twz.com
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Plan B?
www.telegraph.co.uk
A sapper of my ken once told me there were two solutions: fast and noisy or slow and quiet.
Syria took a bit of time. And it only happened once the flying buttresses were removed.
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Meanwhile:
Signal or noise?
www.independent.co.uk
The Independent is not identifiably a pro-Trump source.
Syria shows us that ‘regime change’ needn’t be a dirty phrase
When dealing with entrenched autocracies, overthrow of government can sometimes be the only viable path
www.telegraph.co.uk
A sapper of my ken once told me there were two solutions: fast and noisy or slow and quiet.
Syria took a bit of time. And it only happened once the flying buttresses were removed.
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Meanwhile:
Signal or noise?
Trump says US sent ‘a lot’ of guns to Iranian protesters but ‘the Kurds took’ them
President’s remark appears to be first confirmation of U.S. involvement in aiding protests that wracked Iran for weeks
www.independent.co.uk
The Independent is not identifiably a pro-Trump source.
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Hm. Very uncommon in middle eastern cultures to exaggerate for effect and pump a lot of rhetorical hot air. Good thing the US has a president that responds in kind.
"Mother Of All Battles" imminent, N'th round.
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Of course! We had a plan but the Kurds . . .Meanwhile:
Signal or noise?
The Independent is not identifiably a pro-Trump source.Trump says US sent ‘a lot’ of guns to Iranian protesters but ‘the Kurds took’ them
President’s remark appears to be first confirmation of U.S. involvement in aiding protests that wracked Iran for weeks
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The problem for the Houthi and Iran is that once they do the thing they threaten, they have no more cards to play, and they may provoke action from the countries happy to watch America twist for now.
When the Houthi last shut down the BAM, Europe came out to play. If they do it again, Europe might decide that free passage of the BAM and Straits of Hormuz are in their best interests after all. China might even get in on the action if they start losing money because they can't ship to some of their most profitable trading partners.
Assuming they aren’t selective like Iran in their targeting. Iran seems willing to play ball with certain non-parties. As a proxy of theirs, no reason to think the Houthis won’t too.
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Not a FARP per se. We’ll see, but I’d bet those 130s were not newer MCs, and that they (and the Little Birds) were worst-case planned for one-way trips, hence why the 295Ws were in the AO and used quite successfully to exfil a bunch the -130 and -6 crew. The pax exfil requirements and planning I bet included extracting also one of the 295 crews as well as the two 130 crews and some of the 6s. Like OP NEPTUNE SPEAR, there were also likely some 47Gs lurking nearby with a metric boatload of 7.62 for the Dillons…”just for fear…”
They were Hercs, but we’ll see what variant they really were some time soon.
*Yup, they did exactly what they signed up to, and were selected, to do.
I’d give two, ISR and FRA, but don’t have a third…that WSO and the pilot earlier without question had their *backs covered by their Nation.
The US birds are stripped of a lot of bumpf…I had heard of PW127G1 variant nomenclature for the AFSOC 295Ws, but darned if I can find it now. Open sources show both the CC-295 and the C-295W as equipped with the 127G, so same engine looks like. Im willing to bet the 295W MGTOW is notably lower than the Kingfisher, so I’d be unfounded to hand theAFSOC bird the performance nod.
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Lots of photos of what's left for those that want to try and CSI the exact types.
There is also an image of a "skull" floating around that they're claiming to have found in the wreckage, however it's already to be found to not be from the FARP. It's a picture of a skull in a burned out Peugeot Pars, an Iranian auto.
EDIT: Snacks found.
There is also an image of a "skull" floating around that they're claiming to have found in the wreckage, however it's already to be found to not be from the FARP. It's a picture of a skull in a burned out Peugeot Pars, an Iranian auto.
EDIT: Snacks found.
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The fear is more effective than the act.
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They weren't selective enough the last time, so why imagine they will be this time? Iran selected the craziest proxies, so it's likely their proxies will continue to be crazy.
As Much as America isn't playing 16D chess, neither is Iran... They are holding on for dear life, because their lives are literally on the line if the are seen to be weak.
100%
They have one option, make trade impossible. Once trade is shut down, the rest of the world either finds a new way to trade, or they kil the people stopping the trade.
China might tolerate the blockade for now, but if the UAE decides to shoot at ships that haven't paid them a toll for the straits, China might get serious about freedom of navigation. We don't know the end state of all of this yet, but there is no world in which the Gulf States let Iran dictate the terms of passage through the Straits of Hormuz. Politically it would be a death knell for their own regimes, and financially it would ruin them.
Were they trying to be? Just because they didn’t show a capability of selectivity before, doesn’t mean they can’t. The Houthis have at least some ballistic missile and anti air capacity. We aren’t talking mindless idiots here.
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Not to mention Egypt, KSA, and India. I also see a lot of pipeline moving product to new terminals, away from those choke points.
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It will be fascinating to see who gets to tide water first: them or us.
And the cost of getting it done.
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No, they are clearly not mindless, but just like every other extremist group, they need to keep their base on-side. They also don't have big daddy Iran feeding them int continuously, since Iran is getting pretty messed-up at the same time. A few miscalculations/mistakes could see Europe and Asia come down like the hammer of Thor alongside America.
The best thing Iran and it's allies can do at this point is keep it just America and Israel. If they escalate, the ones on the sidelines might be forced to act.
