Iran Super Thread- Merged
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It will take one perfectly worded tweet to make this untenable.
For the record, the following is a parody, my comedic take on the President of the United States. It is in no way an actual quote, in part or in full, of the President of the United States.
With that out of the way,
Ahem.
"NATO needs to do more! We give everything to NATO! We help NATO in Europe, we don't need to be there! NATO needs to help in Yemen! We don't need help, but they should offer! We don't need anything NATO has but they need to do more! The United States doesn't even need the strait of Hormuz, or the Bab al Mandeb! America makes all the oil we need! The radical democrats, or dumbocrats as I call them, don't want to drill, but I was DRILL DRILL DRILL! Europe needs the Straits, Asia needs the Straits, the USA does NOT NEED IT! The only reason we are there is because Iran cannot get a nuclear weapon! We have destroyed Iran! They have no navy, they have no air force, we have destroyed their military! We have already won! But NATO needs needs to take care of the Bab al Mandeb because we help them in Europe! Without the USA there would be NO NATO! If NATO lets the Houthis win, how can they defend Greenland against the Houthis? UNACCEPTABLE!!!
Thank you for your attention to this matter."
Who joins up after that or something like that?
Which I repeat, is a parody.
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And just to point out that the Saudi's, thanks to a secret deal with China, already has a IRBM force in place.
Royal Saudi Strategic Missile Force — Grokipedia
Since its inception, the force has expanded discreetly, constructing additional silos and launch sites to enhance its arsenal's reach and reliability, with reported ranges extending up to 2,000-3,000
PrairieFella
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Nice touch with Greenland.
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Pretty interesting podcast with first hand accounts of Midnight Hammer. 3 parts:
Halifax Tar
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Elbows up would say we can do what we want, we're a sovereign country.
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They are desperate for a rate cut before Nov elections.
Can’t see that happening right now.
They are being painted into a corner right now.
- High oil
- High inflation
- Lower labour participation
- High borrowing costs
- Falling new mortgage applications
PrairieFella
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If they actually do go nuclear and land some troops I suspect a rate hike, not a cut, will be on the books.
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Landing troops, anywhere in Iran, would be an act of desperation at this point. Any sort of US KIA over 15+ would be a huge PR disaster for Trump and Administration.
How long have the Marines on the 2 Amphibious boats been floating around the ocean already? 3 months? How much longer will they be able to remain on station before returning back to port?
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There are the small islands and one large one with a population centre on it, if they land troops, I suspect that will be the focus. With those islands secure, they would have a more protected logistical route to support further landings and raids.
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In 1966 I might have agreed. In 2026 drones will make any small scale landings a fucking disaster quick. How many hitmarker snuff videos of marines getting FPVed can the US public take?
Related - I heard from some US commentators (most notable being Saagar Enjeti) that Congress is being informed that troops are getting less than standard care in US military hospitals, even Rammstein during this conflict. Not sure where that is coming from or what the cause could be. Were there cuts?
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The landing part would be the easiest task.
Dealing with the drones would the hardest.
In between would be the entire infrastructure required to support those troops on said island(s).
Getting them the food, water, sanitation, accommodation, electricity, infrastructure, etc.
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Taking the islands, will start to blind them from real time intel. Both on shipping and military logistical movements. Grabbing Qeshm (which would be a major undertaking) also puts the Iranian mainland into range of US fiberoptic drones as well. US troops will have air cover that can take out most of the high flying recce drones.
Aba Musha, Siri and lesser/Greater Tunb all have ports and airfields and are at the closest, 51km from the Iranian coast removing the majority of FPV drones as a response by the Iranians.
Aba Musha, Siri and lesser/Greater Tunb all have ports and airfields and are at the closest, 51km from the Iranian coast removing the majority of FPV drones as a response by the Iranians.
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The USA is no closer to winning, but neither is Iran... It's a new forever war.
All of the predictions of America backing down and running away have proven as false as the collapse of Iran's regime.
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Nobody... Iran has been a forever war since 1979. They haven't won yet, and they aren't likely to win anytime soon.
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If we are going back to 1979 we might as well go back to 490 BC
OldSolduer
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With this I heartily agree. Ayatollah Khomeini made sure he poisoned the well.
