Katy Perry ‘regrets public spectacle’ of Blue Origin space mission

Katy Perry ‘regrets public spectacle’ of Blue Origin space mission

Katy Perry is really getting beat up over this stunt.

Watching the space capsule door open from the inside then hurriedly shut so Jeff Bezos could be filmed using a special tool to open the door (just to have it pop open again) was awesome. They sure have hired the film crew from Fly Me to the Moon.

Having to walk back "First all-female space mission" probably didn't help the PR stunt.

 

[Remius]

It's pretty presumptuous of you guys to claim that there's intelligent life on Earth.

I just went through all the posts and to be fair most were mentions of intelligence on other worlds

 

[FJAG]

but probably spread vastly far apart in time and space.

I think that's the nub. I firmly believe intelligent life can arise and has arisen in many places throughout the universe but that the reality is that the speed of light is probably a finite limit regardless of all the sci-fi ideas of wormholes, folding space etc.

Time and space probably makes long distance space travel practically impossible.

This recent discovery, however, makes it possible that at some point we might be able to discover the spectral signatures of advanced civilizations rather than just bacteria.

 

[Haggis]

Another species, examining our planet from afar the way we do others, could certainly have detected what we would recognize as chemical signs of life for hundreds of millions of years. That assumes that other forms of intelligent life would be chemically similar enough to recognize the significance.

As for signs of intelligence, earth has only been ‘emitting’ definite electromagnetic signs of intelligent life for about 130 years, and most of that far too weak to travel far and get picked up. Someone else would have to be paying close attention from no more than a few dozens of light years away to detect radio waves that could only be created by an intelligent and technological species.

There have been targeted efforts to attract the attention of alien life with powerful, narrow band radio transmissions since the 1970s. One notable effort used the Arecibo radio telescope to broadcast 10,000 Twitter messages into space (who the hell came up with that idea?). Given the portrayal of most first contacts in popular culture as a negative experience for the humans, this may not have been a well thought out idea.

Humankind has also made efforts to detect alien life through the SETI (Search for Extra Terrestrial Intelligence) program which used a combination of university computers and volunteer home computers to analyze data gathered by radio telescopes contracted by UC Berkley who administered the SETI project.

I imagine there are millions of other intelligent species in this universe, but probably spread vastly far apart in time and space. Two species would have to be close enough, technological enough, and around the same time period to notice each other.

A far superior species may regard us as "quaint" and an amusing distraction, similar to us owning an aquarium or ant farm.

If another nearby intelligent species wiped itself out in a nuclear holocaust 150 years ago, neither of us would be any the wiser that the other was there unless one day we found the wreckage. The same fate could befall us.

Extinction need not always be species caused. Ask the dinosaurs.

We went from inventing radio communications to inventing thermonuclear weapons in less than a century. A species that harnesses technology might only be ‘detectable’ for a few hundred years if they don’t have their shit together.

Perhaps we are evolving technologically faster than intellectually? But who is to be the judge of that and who would apply the brakes?

 

[FJAG]

There have been targeted efforts to attract the attention of alien life with powerful, narrow band radio transmissions since the 1970s. One notable effort used the Arecibo radio telescope to broadcast 10,000 Twitter messages into space (who the hell came up with that idea?). Given the portrayal of most first contacts in popular culture as a negative experience for the humans, this may not have been a well thought out idea.

Humankind has also made efforts to detect alien life through the SETI (Search for Extra Terrestrial Intelligence) program which used a combination of university computers and volunteer home computers to analyze data gathered by radio telescopes contracted by UC Berkley who administered the SETI project.

Once again, the problem with all electromagnetic transmissions is the speed of light. Assuming someone 150 light years away in our own galaxy is listening, then our 1970s transmissions won't be "heard" by them for another 105 years and their response to us won't get back to us until 255 years from now.

But that begs the question of some vastly older civilization that's been transmitting since several million or even billion years ago. Too weak a signal? Lost in all the background noise that the stars make? Came through here when the dinosaurs ruled and then were snuffed out? Makes one ponder how long advanced civilizations actually stay advanced?

 

[suffolkowner]

Another species, examining our planet from afar the way we do others, could certainly have detected what we would recognize as chemical signs of life for hundreds of millions of years. That assumes that other forms of intelligent life would be chemically similar enough to recognize the significance.

As for signs of intelligence, earth has only been ‘emitting’ definite electromagnetic signs of intelligent life for about 130 years, and most of that far too weak to travel far and get picked up. Someone else would have to be paying close attention from no more than a few dozens of light years away to detect radio waves that could only be created by an intelligent and technological species.

I imagine there are millions of other intelligent species in this universe, but probably spread vastly far apart in time and space. Two species would have to be close enough, technological enough, and around the same time period to notice each other. If another nearby intelligent species wiped itself out in a nuclear holocaust 150 years ago, neither of us would be any the wiser that the other was there unless one day we found the wreckage. The same fate could befall us.

We went from inventing radio communications to inventing thermonuclear weapons in less than a century. A species that harnesses technology might only be ‘detectable’ for a few hundred years if they don’t have their shit together.

the development of technologically competent organisms is without a doubt a big filter. Its not an endgame in of itself. The vastness of space and time i think limit our possible interactions as you say. I dont think theres a huge demand for the 2 million plus journey to this new planet

 

[suffolkowner]

Once again, the problem with all electromagnetic transmissions is the speed of light. Assuming someone 150 light years away in our own galaxy is listening, then our 1970s transmissions won't be "heard" by them for another 105 years and their response to us won't get back to us until 255 years from now.

But that begs the question of some vastly older civilization that's been transmitting since several million or even billion years ago. Too weak a signal? Lost in all the background noise that the stars make? Came through here when the dinosaurs ruled and then were snuffed out? Makes one ponder how long advanced civilizations actually stay advanced?

run out of sun? We have what a billion years left in ours? Species go extinct all the time. 2 million years is a good run. I think technologically capable lifeforms are much rarer than life itself

 

[brihard]

 

[FJAG]

run out of sun? We have what a billion years left in ours? Species go extinct all the time. 2 million years is a good run. I think technologically capable lifeforms are much rarer than life itself

I guess since single cell life started about 4 billion years ago, multicellular life about a billion years ago and more complex organisms some 500 million years ago as opposed while electromagnetic transmissions have been around, give or take, 150 - 200 years (albeit very weak at the start) and perhaps environmental signatures some 15 - 20,000 years (assuming early forms of agriculture and farming give of adequate environmental signatures), one could say that while life has been here a very long time, "technological life," in even its simplest forms, has been around for less than a heart-beat by comparison.

 

[suffolkowner]

I guess since single cell life started about 4 billion years ago, multicellular life about a billion years ago and more complex organisms some 500 million years ago as opposed while electromagnetic transmissions have been around, give or take, 150 - 200 years (albeit very weak at the start) and perhaps environmental signatures some 15 - 20,000 years (assuming early forms of agriculture and farming give of adequate environmental signatures), one could say that while life has been here a very long time, "technological life," in even its simplest forms, has been around for less than a heart-beat by comparison.

and the first 4 billion years of that story are probably on firmer footing than the last 200, 20000, 200000 as far as repeatability goes

 

[OldSolduer]

and the first 4 billion years of that story are probably on firmer footing than the last 200, 20000, 200000 as far as repeatability goes

 

[Fishbone Jones]

Let's just hope whoever follows our beam back to us are benevolent travellers and not members of some galactic epicurious exotic food club.

 

[RangerRay]

I just found it funny a bunch women paid a bajillion dollars to a bajillionaire to go in a rocket that looks like a giant dildo.

 

[FJAG]

Let's just hope whoever follows our beam back to us are benevolent travellers and not members of some galactic epicurious exotic food club.

To Serve Man (The Twilight Zone) - Wikipedia

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[Retired AF Guy]

I just found it funny a bunch women paid a bajillion dollars to a bajillionaire to go in a rocket that looks like a giant dildo.

You are not the only one!

 

[lenaitch]

How to use technology to make an impression on uncontacted isolated tribes:

 

[OldSolduer]

Let's just hope whoever follows our beam back to us are benevolent travellers and not members of some galactic epicurious exotic food club.

Predators enter the chat…

 

[Haggis]

Predators enter the chat…

Let's give credit where due. First, the Predator species were honourable warriors. Second, they saved us from the xenomorphs in two movies. Sure, they f#cked up a lot of stuff along they way, but we did try to exploit them.

 

[OldSolduer]

Let's give credit where due. First, the Predator species were honourable warriors. Second, they saved us from the xenomorphs in two movies. Sure, they f#cked up a lot of stuff along they way, but we did try to exploit them.

I like the Predators. They are pretty up front. No fuckin around