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Knife Registry on the way?

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Doctors call for kitchen knife ban
Friday, May 27, 2005 Posted: 1008 GMT (1808 HKT)

Doctors say pointed knives owe more to tradition than culinary necessity.
 
LONDON, England (AP) -- Are there killers in your kitchen drawer?

Three emergency-room doctors called Friday for long, pointed kitchen knives to be banned in a bid to reduce the number of stabbings in Britain.

Writing in the British Medical Journal, three doctors from London's West Middlesex University Hospital said that at least half of stabbing cases involved kitchen knives. Long, pointed knives serve no useful purpose in kitchens, they argued.

"Many assaults are impulsive, often triggered by alcohol or misuse of other drugs, and the long pointed kitchen knife is an easily available potentially lethal weapon, particularly in the domestic setting," wrote Emma Hern, Will Glazebrook and Mike Beckett in an editorial for the journal.

"Government action to ban the sale of such knives would drastically reduce their availability over the course of a few years."

Knives are the most common murder weapon in Britain, where guns are difficult to obtain. Prime Minister Tony Blair's government has announced plans to make knives harder to buy and to raise the minimum age for ownership from 16 to 18.

The doctors said pointed knives were much more likely to penetrate deeply and cause serious injury than either blunt-nosed or short-bladed designs.

The doctors argued that the use of dagger-type pointed knives rather than the blunt-tipped variety owed more to tradition than culinary necessity. Diners haven't used knife tips to spear their food since forks were introduced in the 18th century, they said.

The authors said a survey of 10 chefs had confirmed their view.

"Some commented that a point is useful in the fine preparation of some meat and vegetables, but that this could be done with a short pointed knife (less than five centimeters (two inches) in length)," they wrote.

"None gave a reason why the long pointed knife was essential."


Thoughts? 
 
Looks like a 'Vegan' Conspiracy......No more Steak Knives - No more Meat Eaters. 

Time for a 'Tudor Dinner' where we all eat with our hands and just tear off what we want.......or 'Chinese'........Chop Sticks.......Oops! .......No Chop Sticks........Someone may poke out an eye!  Do they think that we will be able to get our nutrients by osmosis or what?  ::)
 
Guardian said:
Knives are the most common murder weapon in Britain, where guns are difficult to obtain.

And once pointy knives become outlawed, only outlaws will have pointy knives, easily imported from the continent via the chunnel.  Those who would have been likely to reach for a knife will reach for a cricket bat and within a few years, wooden cricket bats will be outlawed - only nerf bats will be allowed.  The intentions of these doctors is noble and I'm all for making society safer, but at a certain point, one has to draw the line.  Social engineering of this kind is a step towards less freedom and we all know where that can end, if unchecked.  The problem isn't the knife, it's the individual who uses it to harm others.  Treat the individual - don't ban the object.  A disturbed person can easily find other things around the house to commit harm.  Off the top of my head, smashing a gin bottle will create a handy weapon.
 
It seems that there is a trend towards "Devolution" in these 'Social Restructuring' schemes.  First we outlaw guns; then 'pointy knives' followed soon after by 'pointy sticks'; then blunt sticks, bats and clubs; then we will look at outlawing glass bottles ( for the reasons already stated - broken bottle used to kill.....), then all glass products........right down to the point where we will outlaw the giving of the 'evil eye' to someone......Shades of "Minority Report".  There are over 100 objects in any room that could be used to cause death.  It seems rediculous at the time, but as Guardian asks; where will it all stop?
 
Gee, maybe the problem is with the drugs and alcohol that the article says fuels most attacks? 
 
George Wallace said:
It seems that there is a trend towards "Devolution" ...

As a life long Devo fan all I can say is things are starting to look good  :blotto:
 
Thirstyson said:
As a life long Devo fan all I can say is things are starting to look good   :blotto:

"It's a working day......"

Back on subject.....Sometimes it makes you wonder if the people coming up with these 'half-baked' ideas are on drugs.
 
I work around knives all day, because i work in a restaurant, and never have i once thought to myself, well this is a big knife i'll just stab one of my co-workers. This is the silliest thing i have ever heard. Anything can be used as a weapon, it's not knives(or guns or any other sort of lethal object) that kill people it's people that kill people(ok so i stole that cliche line but it fits so nicely). >:D
 
Horse_Soldier said:
And once pointy knives become outlawed, only outlaws will have pointy knives, easily imported from the continent via the chunnel.  

    Couldn't agree more, spot on.
 
"There are over 100 objects in any room that could be used to cause death."

- (TCBF holding up trigger finger): "This is my safety."

Tom
 
camochick said:
........, it's not knives(or guns or any other sort of lethal object) that kill people it's people that kill people(ok so i stole that cliche line but it fits so nicely). >:D

WAIT FOR IT!   One of these days, one of those wackos will outlaw People.   Tom's "Safety" will not be good enough.    ::)  ;D
 
The common denominator of all these crackpot schemes is they place the blame on the object, not the person. By this reasoning, there should be a cat registry, since cat dander is dangerous to people suffering from allergies....(They will get my Siamese when they..you know the rest).

Perhaps if we started asking really pointed (ahem) questions in all the media channels we could find about why THE PERSON RESPONSIBLE isn't being charged/dicipliined/councelled or whatever everytime a case like this came up, we could at lease start spreading the personal responsibility meme to a wider audience, with the hope that it will eventually become self sustaining.
 
Knives, {he says loking at the bic pen in his hands} we don need no stinking knives!

This is d - u - m. dum. I know that it is possible to kill a person with a deck of cards. ooh! what about rocks. OUTLAW rocks! they're deadly

We now return you to your daily dose of the absurd, brought to you by special interest groups all over the planet... film at eleven.
 
Egad, but this is funny!

People used to joke about firearm registration.  "What next, kitchen knives?"

And here we are.  (Are we sure this isn't a hoax, BTW?)

There is no lower bound on foolishness, except death.
 
remember troops: When kitchen knives are outlawed, only outlaws will have sliced tomatoes.

 
What a load of shit this !, Next it will be Bic pens and flat head screw drivers. Leaqve it to the Poms to come up with such PC jibberish.

However, in Sydney, they are going for a sword/bayonet ban, seems to many of our ethnic new Aussies are using clevers, machetes, and swords as their weapon of choice. Another fine tradition they have brought with them, and its their acts which seem to spoil things for the meanstreeam Aussies.

I guess what I am saying, its pretty sad when one can generalise a person's ethnicity by thew weapon used in crime. 99/100, its right too.

So some weenies decided to ban all such, and even Japanese swords of WW2 era, belonging to vets and vet's families would have to be registered. Bloody insane.

Anyways, it will most likely go no where, but importation of such may become restricted into New South Wales, meanwhile here in God's Country (Queensland - Australia's Alberta), nothing will change.

Cheers,

Wes
 
2332Piper said:
Its like I'm living in some surreal world that used to exist only in bad dreams. Banning pointy knives? Whats next, forks?
They'll have to pry my nail clipper from my cold dead hands!!  :P
 
Will my hamburger come with a full tomatoe, pickle and onion? Eek, I'm going to start stockpiling my knifes right now, any of you suckers who wants to buy a steak knife next year will pay a hefty price, yes a hefty price indeed. Anyways, it's been a slice. ;)
 
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