LAV 6.0

[quadrapiper]

maybe using it hard cause its new ?

Driving it like it was a vaguely similar but much lighter vehicle, e.g. BTRs or the like?

 

[Kirkhill]

Who is the manufacturer of the tires? Who else besides us uses those same tires?

I believe they are Michelin XML 325x85r16s

LAV 6.0: Protected, mobile and lethal – Vanguard

vanguardcanada.com

I believe Michelin has supplied all the tires for all the LAVs (IIs, IIIs and 6s) and the TAPVs.

 

[Czech_pivo]

I believe they are Michelin XML 325x85r16s

LAV 6.0: Protected, mobile and lethal – Vanguard

vanguardcanada.com

I believe Michelin has supplied all the tires for all the LAVs (IIs, IIIs and 6s) and the TAPVs.

Wonder if any other countries armoured vehicles use them

 

[Kirkhill]

I just saw this article where the UK's CDS was saying that the budget didn't cover everything that the government wanted to do.

Given the AJAX cock-up and Ukraine's decision that a domestically built armoured 4x4 meets most of their requirements, along with comments that expensive kit is destroyed as easily as cheap kit then, perhaps we should be looking less at the Medium solution and more at a LIght - Heavy dichotomy.

Lots of light vehicles for national defence and the rear and a well-defined number of heavy assault vehicles.

GM ISV/LUV
Roshel Senator
GDLSC/BAE BvS10 Beowulf

Then something in the 40 to 60 tonne range for the Cavalry and the Armoured.

And lots of standoff weaponry and active defence measures (C-UAS and Air Defence).

 

[suffolkowner]

I believe they are Michelin XML 325x85r16s

LAV 6.0: Protected, mobile and lethal – Vanguard

vanguardcanada.com

I believe Michelin has supplied all the tires for all the LAVs (IIs, IIIs and 6s) and the TAPVs.

the brochure says 395/85 R20

https://www.gdlscanada.com/wp-content/uploads/2022/08/LAV-6.0.pdf

 

[Kirkhill]

deleted for wrong thread

 

[Kirkhill]

Deleted for wrong thread.

Sorry @suffolkowner

Moved them to the pipelines thread.

 

[suffolkowner]

Discount on Western Canada Select narrows | BOE Report

The discount on Western Canada Select crude oil to North American benchmark West Texas Intermediate futures narrowed on Thursday. WCS for February delivery in Hardisty, Alberta, settled at $14.10 a barrel below the U.S. benchmark WTI, according to brokerage CalRock, compared with $14.30 a barrel...

boereport.com

And there is that $14 dollar US advantage that the US was touting wrt the Venezuelan oil.

Just consider it the mark up necessary to get our product to market. 33% to give the US a 25% margin to cover handling and refining and generate a healthy commission.

that price for WCS they are quoting is in Hardisty.
Are they quoting WTI in Hardisty or is it Cushing or Houston?

 

[markppcli]

It is worth clicking on that link and reading the rest of the thread.

Heavy.
Tires wear.
Electronically very noisy.
Hard to maintain.
RWS with 7.62 and 12.7 too light for suppressive fire.
Burns as easy as a pickup truck when hit by an FPV.

Expensive is not better.

Itd almost bit really meant to do APC jobs, but in the context of Ukraine is doing so .

 

[Kirkhill]

Itd almost bit really meant to do APC jobs, but in the context of Ukraine is doing so .

In the APC role might something like the EOS Slinger C-UAS RWS not be a better match?

 

[MilEME09]

Itd almost bit really meant to do APC jobs, but in the context of Ukraine is doing so .

Its a battle taxi, like the m113 was, not really intended to be in the thick of it

 

[markppcli]

Its a battle taxi, like the m113 was, not really intended to be in the thick of it

Its not at all like the m113, it simply is too big to be close to the flot.

 

[MilEME09]

Its not at all like the m113, it simply is too big to be close to the flot.

I was referring to role on the battlefield, thats it.

 

[Furniture]

Its not at all like the m113, it simply is too big to be close to the flot.

Are they more like the height of old Queen Marys?

 

[markppcli]

I was referring to role on the battlefield, thats it.

They're optimized to be CPs and Ambs and the shape follows.

Are they more like the height of old Queen Marys?

Same height as a lav 6 turret.

 

[suffolkowner]

Are they more like the height of old Queen Marys?

 

[PrairieFella]

Personally I think the amb was pretty well executed. It blows most countries armoured ambs, including our bison and TLAV ambs out of the water in terms of life saving capability.

 

[Kirkhill]

Comparing the ACSV to the Patria CAVs project on a one to one basis as an APC the thing that appeals to me about the CAV is the driver/VC layout.

In a Canadian winter the truck-like configuration with side by side seating, a full windshield and door windows, and heating has got the LAV configuration beat.

Fore and aft, no eye contact, ic comms, head in the breeze or driving through periscopes.

I gather there is some type of screen that can be erected now but that doesn't overcome the other deficiencies.

The LAV layout makes sense for a fighting vehicle in a temperate climate but if all you want is a protected troop carrying truck that will keep the troops cosy on a long haul then the CAV layout looks better to me.