Journeyman said:
Having to deal with the not-so-subtle jealousy of the non-infantry types, which goes all the way up the chain of command.
If you can believe it, some have even gone to the bizarre lengths of stealing infantry weapons systems (mortars) and capabilities (pioneers), in the hopes of tricking people into believing they were infantry. In one non-infantry regiment, they tried this by taking the anti-armour weapons (TOW), which proved too difficult for them to operate. It worked to their benefit though - - by raising their hopes of getting some of the cast-off groupies by hanging out with real infantry soldiers.
Although it's actually quite sad, the reality is not everyone has the upper-body strength, cardio fitness, and rugged good looks to be infantry. ;D
journeyman....
I have lots of respect for all trades, but specially the combat arms, you remind me of some one i know ignorant and un-informed, so i will help your 10th grade education and educate you. Everyone in our army has got a job to do, and they all do it to there best abilities. And NO don't confuse yourself with the thought that engineers want to be infanteers,, because they are extremely happy doing the task they are called upon to do.. which are obstacle breaching to include FIBUA IED and EOD disposal, bridging,diving, heavy equipment, armour engineers, building defences including camps,, and pretty much every other dogs job that is required to do. But their is one aspect that rubs you raw and its a decision that was made by much more educated people then you from experiences in the present war and past wars, and thats that the engineers secondary dutie is to fight as infantry WHEN REQUIRED, it is in the job description! look it up no other trade has that distinction so they train as infantry because they have to. You cannot properly support the infantry if you cannot move like them and know their tactics, you become a liability, and you cannot leave them behind and wait to call them forward which is what your prob thinking, cause you might not have that chance, so NO they are not trying to be infanteers,, just engineers dude just engineers!!, and as for the pioneers that is a whole different ball of wax but truth be told, there is a role for them, the problem was that from my experience they tried to do more then they were trained for, much the same way you think about the engineers but the only difference being that they do not do that task for a career, only a few years and there is no way that they can get competent at what they do having a compressed course, then spending a few years in the platoon with no real life experience, plus look it up in history the pioneers originated from the engineers. I deployed alot before getting out and trust me no engineers i know Wants to be an infanteer, and as for fitness dude pound for pound we hold our own,,just ask 2 CER and the iron man competition and 1 CER with the strong contender remember,, so just have a little respect for other people who are willing to die for this country, and dont be so narrow minded. And there are construction engineers that are predominately fat that were the cap badge to, like you prob already know having the name of journeyman, admit it you re mustered. It's ok cause they have a very important job to do as well.
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