Liberal Minority Government 2025 - ???

[The Bread Guy]

Right. The government will have to figure it out since Canadians didn't give the Liberals a majority.

And if they went off half-cocked just to do something, they'd get dinged too, sooooo ....

 

[ueo]

It would open the door for Cheryl Gallant to be leader! Who?

 

[Furniture]

CPC doing what CPC does best under this leader, vote against anything and everything the gov puts down. Once again showing Pierre Poilievre’s party doesn't care about holding the government accountable or helping Canadians, it just says no.

https://twitter.com/x/status/1928560999537283076

They're doing what all opposition parties do, voting against the government on things that will pass without their votes... Pretending it's a uniquely CPC thing is disingenuous.

If it was a confidence motion with a fear the newly elected government would fall, the LPC and CPC would be working together to get it passed.

 

[dapaterson]

Cheryl Gallant is the MP representing the Petawawa area, and she's, um, unique.

For @ueo

 

[quadrapiper]

In order for that to be legally binding I think there would have to be some form of 'uber treaty' or something. A piece of government legislation would only bind the Crown side and, push come to shove, a FN could say the umbrella group no longer speaks for them. A similarity would be a union being the legal bargaining unit for a group of employees.

Depending on the model, definitely.

One (probably) not needing a "United Nations of Canada" treaty could see the AFN acting as facilitator to bring together a per-consultation group of affected nations, and perhaps get a bunch of the intramural politicking addressed, before putting everyone together with federal reps.

 

[GK .Dundas]

Cheryl Gallant is the MP representing the Petawawa area, and she's, um, unique.

For @ueo

I think you ment to say a frickin idiot.
And people wonder why I have trouble supporting the conservatives any more.

 

[MilEME09]

They're doing what all opposition parties do, voting against the government on things that will pass without their votes... Pretending it's a uniquely CPC thing is disingenuous.

If it was a confidence motion with a fear the newly elected government would fall, the LPC and CPC would be working together to get it passed.

all spending bills are confidence motions as far as I recall, and No, holding the government to account and just voting no on everything are two entirely different things.

 

[Jarnhamar]

And if they went off half-cocked just to do something, they'd get dinged too, sooooo ....

All things considered I'm glad we have a banker prime minister over a typical politician (allegedly). It might be what we need to get Canada off the crappy trajectory the LPC has us on.

I have hope for him but Carney hasn't exactly proved he's not a typical Liberal politician yet.

Maybe if he shines through the next 4 years the Liberals may get a majority.

 

[YZT580]

The Liberals promised a $40B deficit then blasted through the "guard rails" and hit almost $62B. That's not an accounting error.

Liberals word when it comes to money isnt worth much.

Besides Carney is a Harvard educated super economist with a PhD and experience running two world banks. I keep reading how incredibly qualified be is. I'm sure he can do better than some estimates where tax dollars are going to go.

The same comment keeps re-appearing extolling Carney's education. It gets very tedious reading replies that all start with the phrase "Besides, Carney...". Go back to basics. If you walked into your bank and said to your financial guru "I make 100000 a year. I am going to borrow a million from you and give a third of it away to foreign governments, give another third away to support domestic projects that have no chance of ever being viable and use the final third as collateral to borrow another million from the bank next door" He would laugh you out of the building or have you committed as being a danger to yourself and your family. But for Carney, we excuse him by running his credentials up the flagpole and saluting them. Dumb.

 

[The Bread Guy]

All things considered I'm glad we have a banker prime minister over a typical politician (allegedly). It might be what we need to get Canada off the crappy trajectory the LPC has us on.

I have hope for him but Carney hasn't exactly proved he's not a typical Liberal politician yet.

Maybe if he shines through the next 4 years the Liberals may get a majority.

My fingers are crossed, too, in spite of some at least yellow cards (Gilbeault being allowed to beak off without visible sanction or public contradiction, 2 x senior ministers not speaking to media at CANSEC) so far.

Then again, I was willing to give the guy with the cute socks and nice hair the benefit of the doubt when he first started, too. At least this guy, like you say, has at least some real-ish world experience going in.

 

[MilEME09]

The same comment keeps re-appearing extolling Carney's education. It gets very tedious reading replies that all start with the phrase "Besides, Carney...". Go back to basics. If you walked into your bank and said to your financial guru "I make 100000 a year. I am going to borrow a million from you and give a third of it away to foreign governments, give another third away to support domestic projects that have no chance of ever being viable and use the final third as collateral to borrow another million from the bank next door" He would laugh you out of the building or have you committed as being a danger to yourself and your family. But for Carney, we excuse him by running his credentials up the flagpole and saluting them. Dumb.

that one third you claim isn't viable however has investors and provincial governments screaming over, like Doug fords dumb 401 tunnel, or Smith wanting to revive northern gateway to a port the company didn't even originally want to go to, and doesn't support reviving.

 

[Kirkhill]

My fingers are crossed, too, in spite of some at least yellow cards (Gilbeault being allowed to beak off without visible sanction or public contradiction, 2 x senior ministers not speaking to media at CANSEC) so far.

Then again, I was willing to give the guy with the cute socks and nice hair the benefit of the doubt when he first started, too. At least this guy, like you say, has at least some real-ish world experience going in.

He is still weighted down by the company he has kept as far as I am concerned.

Hopeful but doubtful.

 

[dapaterson]

I think you ment to say a frickin idiot.
And people wonder why I have trouble supporting the conservatives any more.

Every party has their interesting collection of idiots in safe ridings who wield party influence and power.

 

[Furniture]

all spending bills are confidence motions as far as I recall, and No, holding the government to account and just voting no on everything are two entirely different things.

As I pointed out, all opposition parties do this, so don't pretend it's unique to PP or the CPC. It's cheap politics, but it's what they all do.

Also, as I specified previously, they only play this game when the government won't fall in a confidence motion. If the LPC was going to fail a confidence motion this close to the last election, both parties would be working together to make it work.

The CPC have already made the LPC into CPC lite, so I'd say that's pretty effective opposition...